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Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok in China is already cut off from the rest of the world. The US is just copying China's homework.

We are doing state capitalism without China’s “serve the people” bit. Hm, maybe there’s a name for that type of government, idk.

Careful now, you don't want to accused of spreading hate speech

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#62
This seems like a premature reaction. The Trump administration has been known to anchor to extreme positions as a negotiation tactic.

Given the complexity of forced platform migrations (user data transfer, algorithm preservation, creator monetization continuity), and the technical/legal hurdles involved, I suspect we're seeing opening moves in a broader negotiation rather than a final outcome.

Let's all be patient and wait to see how this plays out before assuming users will actually have to migrate to a completely new app with new ownership.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just not use TikTok.

That doesn't diminish the impact it has on the rest of humanity, and by proxy, on me.

Wouldn't it be better if fewer people used TikTok, given negative impact of social media on individuals and society?

Wouldn't it be better if these investors lose money on this investment?

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#64
post #16

Sometimes I'm truly baffled over the stories that the HN readership ends up mostly ignoring. When I heard about this news elsewhere, I came here fully expecting this to be high on the front page with hundreds of comments discussing it. For comparison's sake, the story about Tiktok shutting down[1] and then restoring service[2] in the US each had over 2500 comments. Meanwhile, 3 hours after this story was posted, this…

There's too much randomness to expect any consistency.

Sometimes we re-up things for that reason (basically the second-chance pool mechanism: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308). I've done that with this one.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#65

Source: https://www.wsj.com/tech/details-emerge-on-u-s-china-tiktok-... (which has a clearer title that's not that much different than days ago news: U.S. Investors, Trump Close In on TikTok Deal With China)

We changed the URL from https://www.reuters.com/world/china/oracle-silver-lake-conso... to the article that it points to.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#66

Oracle is then going to mandate license fees from every user, together with 22% support fees with 8% increase every year. They'll then rewrite TikTok in Java, and migrate to Oracle Database.

The Android .APK files are already Java.

To be fair, that doesn't mean they can't be re-written in Java.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#67

Oracle is then going to mandate license fees from every user, together with 22% support fees with 8% increase every year. They'll then rewrite TikTok in Java, and migrate to Oracle Database.

The Android .APK files are already Java.

IIRC, but I read the TikTok app is mostly WebViews, which was a design choice to help keep it functioning in the face of an App Store ban.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#68

So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

> So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN.

That's not Larry Ellison, it's his nepo baby David Ellison.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#69
post #65

Source: https://www.wsj.com/tech/details-emerge-on-u-s-china-tiktok-... (which has a clearer title that's not that much different than days ago news: U.S. Investors, Trump Close In on TikTok Deal With China)

We changed the URL from https://www.reuters.com/world/china/oracle-silver-lake-conso... to the article that it points to.

dang why can't I downvote comments

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#70

I think it's bad news if the US government owns Tiktok data rather than the Chinese government. Chinese government won't prosecute me. US government might. The State Department also said it would crack down on non-citizens who have made posts making light of the shooting. “In light of yesterday’s horrific assassination of a leading political figure, I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred…

When you reach the point of choosing the lesser evil, you might just as well uninstall TikTok.
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