U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China • Hacker News Board

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by bluecalm » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 12:02 PM UTC

ulfw wrote: post #42

Why would any company want to operate in America, sell to Americans or onboard American users anymore? If you're not successful you just wasted a ton of time and money. If you are successful the newUSA will force you to divest what you've build against your will. Doesn't sound like a country worth investing in anymore.

Because it's the biggest market. Half of my customers are American. I have never even marketed anything to them. It's the biggest, best market with the most people willing to spend the most money.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by 20after4 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 12:31 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #37

Tarsul wrote: post #13

so US users will be cut off from the rest of the world? Wow. Thats crazy.

Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of global users ended up using the US app instead of TikTok.

Why would anyone want to use OracleTok?

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by kelipso » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 12:57 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #37

Tarsul wrote: post #13

so US users will be cut off from the rest of the world? Wow. Thats crazy.

Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of global users ended up using the US app instead of TikTok.

You won’t get the option to do it through the app stores, so pretty much no one’s going to do it.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by aurareturn » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 1:04 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #16

Sometimes I'm truly baffled over the stories that the HN readership ends up mostly ignoring. When I heard about this news elsewhere, I came here fully expecting this to be high on the front page with hundreds of comments discussing it. For comparison's sake, the story about Tiktok shutting down[1] and then restoring service[2] in the US each had over 2500 comments. Meanwhile, 3 hours after this story was posted, this…

My theory is that it highly depends on the few random people who view New posts and if they upvote/comment.

The exact same post with the exact same title can either be completely ignored with no comments and no upvotes or be the top post with 500 upvotes and 300 comments.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by pier25 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 1:55 PM UTC

20after4 wrote: post #52

pier25 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of global users ended up using the US app instead of TikTok.

Why would anyone want to use OracleTok?

Same way everyone uses all the other US apps?

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by 737282251819 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 2:22 PM UTC

One more reason to despise Oracle.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by spacechild1 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 2:33 PM UTC

volleyball wrote: post #41

So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

This is just crazy. No single person should have this amount of power, in particular if they have the moral integrity of Larry Ellison...

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by andsoitis » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 2:35 PM UTC

So now we will split American TikTok users from those of the rest of the world? Madness.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by duxup » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 2:39 PM UTC

I'm curious how bad the misinformation type stuff will be.

It's bad everywhere, but I found TikTok to be the absolute worst. Not even just fake news political stuff where I can guess the motivation (still bad), but just basic everyday tips and tricks, local users describing news events. I've found it to be so much worse on tiktok.

Other platforms there seems to be "more" intent by creators to provide somewhat consistent / factual content. Tiktok often feels to me like content accuracy / quality isn't a concern for most creators.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by morkalork » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 2:40 PM UTC

aurareturn wrote: post #54

slg wrote: post #16

Sometimes I'm truly baffled over the stories that the HN readership ends up mostly ignoring. When I heard about this news elsewhere, I came here fully expecting this to be high on the front page with hundreds of comments discussing it. For comparison's sake, the story about Tiktok shutting down[1] and then restoring service[2] in the US each had over 2500 comments. Meanwhile, 3 hours after this story was posted, this…

My theory is that it highly depends on the few random people who view New posts and if they upvote/comment. The exact same post with the exact same title can either be completely ignored with no comments and no upvotes or be the top post with 500 upvotes and 300 comments.

Exactly. Depending on the traffic in newest, stories can slip in disappear in the flow