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The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by rz2k »

duairc wrote: post #17
klrr wrote: post #12

I don't support illegal activity, but I believe this is a quest of freedom, not for getting stuff free as in free beer.

Why don't you support illegal activity?

Typically that's part of belonging to a community.

Are you morally free to kill your guards if you are in prison through a failure of the judicial system? I don't think you are.

How about if you are in a death camp, where your government has not made a mistake, but is executing its legislatively determined plan of genocide? I think you are morally free to kill your guards in that case.

I also think you are morally free to rob a store for medical supplies during a natural disaster, but not morally free to rob a bank to pay for a relative's life-saving surgery.

When to break the law should be a conscious decision, consistent with some framework of ultimate costs and benefits to yourself, your society and beliefs, not merely opportunism or a universal refusal to ever defer to the rest of the community's decisions.

Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by anonymous »

katovatzschyn wrote: post #40
dpkendal wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Underground Railroad. Prohibition. Hush-A-Phone. The Communications Decency Act. Crypto export regulations. Breaking DRM.

Or so simple as speeding when you drive? There are many laws which do not function as they should.

Care to elaborate? I'm not a driver myself, so I haven't had to experience speed limits first hand. What's the problem with just driving under the posted speed limit?

Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by icebraining »

klrr wrote: post #29
lumberjack wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Free software projects like the GNU foundation or the OpenBSD foundation are striving towards freedom. ThePirateBay.se et al are simply filling in on market demand created by the utter absurdity of treating digital data as if it was a can of tomatoes or a bag of crisps.

There is no "FOSS", Free Software is software which respects the users freedom, Open-Source software is software which allow the ability to study the source code(not that some Open-Source licenses is kinda like Free Software licenses too, but some are even similar to non-free software). They are two completely different things. Yes, I support FSF and GNU more than TPB of course.

While nobody own the term, the Open Source Initiative's definition is almost the same as FSF's definition of Free Software.

Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by vidarh »

XiaoPing wrote: post #22

Yes, I cannot believe that those guys are still running. Amazing.

The things that's truly amazing is just how inept the attempts at getting them blocked are.

In the UK, the big ISPs initially at least blocked only a single IP, so TPB have changed IPs a few times. Each time to a new IP in the /24 network block registered to them. Why the entire /24 didn't get blocked in the first case is beyond me.

Not that it'd have helped given the massive number of proxies, but it doesn't look like they were even trying.

Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by T-hawk »

anonymous wrote: post #52
katovatzschyn wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or so simple as speeding when you drive? There are many laws which do not function as they should.

Care to elaborate? I'm not a driver myself, so I haven't had to experience speed limits first hand. What's the problem with just driving under the posted speed limit?

1. Speed limits are slow and people are impatient. 55 MPH on a highway feels quite pokey in clear conditions when 75 MPH is easily possible with no appreciable loss in safety. And 30 MPH on surface streets is positively crawling. They are designed low knowing that the average user will exceed them, similar to the MPAA's tax on blank recording media where the expectation of violating is built into the product.

2. Blending in with the crowd. If the speed limit is 55 but everybody is going 75, it is safer for you to drive at 75 in smooth traffic flow rather than go 55 and create waves of darting and merging traffic trying to go around you.

3. Speed limits are sometimes applied dishonestly in the name of safety, when the real goal is revenue generation from violators. Such a law is immoral and unjust - government abusing its monopoly cartel power - and breaking it represents civil disobedience. This is more what the ancestor posts are getting at.

Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by TheAmazingIdiot »

klrr wrote: post #42
fein wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A firearm shop will sell you the gun, but they won't pull the trigger for you. What about the torrent applications like uTorrent, Transmission, rTorrent, etc? Are they equally as guilty in your eyes?

This have nothing to do with bittorrent, the bittorrent protocol and torrents came long before people started sharing illegal copies of software. It's a great technology and it's actually meant to make downloads faster.

Umm, no.

The very first bittorrent torrent was a 100 MB pirated porn video. I still have it.

The client was a .py script. And it was hardcoded with said video.

Re: The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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Post by weaksauce »

necenzurat wrote: post #58

i poste the same fucking shit 8 hours ago and NO VOTES, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4525973 WTF?

That's 6am PST.(where silicon valley is) Not a lot of people are up at that time here reading hacker news. Also, the new page tends to get overrun with new items quite quickly and sometimes an article does not get steam.

But frankly your tone is not one that many here care for so please refrain. Also, please refrain from meta commentary; it's just noise.

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