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There is a special place in hell for people providing non copyable text information in the form of screenshots.
The other day I wanted to send someone proof that a transaction has gone through. A screenshot would have been the obvious choice, but of course, my banking app wouldn't let me do it.
Linux phones are more important now than ever
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#202My Android phone prevents me from taking screenshots if an app author doesn't want me to. My Android phone prevents me from recording phone calls at the request of my carrier, even though it's totally legal for me to do so in my jurisdiction. I'm not loving where this is all going.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux can emulate android. Most banks have websites, and the only real blocker for banking apps I've seen is the photo verification due to hardware issues connecting to the emulated android system.
the app for one of my banks which i need for 2FA won't run on my /e/OS phone.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been considering this as my Android exit plan (as part of a slow rolling de-googling effort, even before the recent "sideloading" news). Are you using it as a daily driver? I'm sort of surprised it doesn't get brought up more.
Yes, I used SailfishOS as a daily driver since ~2014 until last year when I moved to the Furi FLX1. The FLX1 has been my daily driver since. SailfishOS is much more polished, but it's not fully FOSS, and it follows upstream much less closely. FLX1 is basically in-sync with Debian testing, with the exception of kernel.
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#205I tried the fantastic DroidVNC-NG (KUDOS to the author) app because I wanted to see if I could stream a whole Android phone left at home at all times. The idea was attempting to switch to PostmarketOS, so if I ever needed to use a banking app I could do it through this phone via a VNC client. You can't. Banking apps black the login screen. Even if that is ok for 99.9% of users, I know what I'm doing and I do not abso…
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#206What I don't get (plz help me) is why out of a sudden this vendors close up their phones and why is Google going this way? What's their intend?
Some say it's eSIM and identity integrity
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I absolutely hate that government and bank apps are only available on the Play Store. You are legally required to have a Google account and accept their ToS to use them. I am aware of Aurora, but some banking apps check their origin and refuse to run if not downloaded from the Play Store.
Do they not have websites to login with?
When I login to my bank on desktop, after passing thru standard flow of login+password (plus silly "pick the avatar you once selected placed at random on this grid") page shows a modal to approve once, approve and add to trusted devices or log out (which never works on dynamic IP). Then I need to approve in app with secondary PIN aka "mobile password" in my bank terminology. Operations on both desktop and within app require that secondary PIN; transactions up to a specified limit do not but mobile payments done with temporary 6-digit codes need a confirm
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#208Linux phones are useless for common people until they can run government and bank apps.
In giant font at the top of the linked post: > apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate. Please don’t be one of the 34 people that replied to tell me Linux is not ready.
OK, but what steps are being made to make it ready? How do you solve the issue of many apps not accepting rooted Androids (and very rightly so)?
I mean, Linux distros even struggle with Secure Boot on a normal PC - which is a far easier problem to solve...
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What government apps do people run? Public transport ticket app, government ID app, drivers licence app. I do believe all of these specific examples run fine on rooted Android without too much hassle (unsure about the second one), so they should be emulatable or whatever on a Linux phone, but that assumes that experience holds up decently well, which I would be surprised if it did for apps like this. > Why do you n…
The driver's license apps will start requiring a non-rooted phone if they don't already.
At present, governments and banks are freeloaders piggybacking on the popularity of the smartphone. If these entities end up mandating access to their services via this route (or making them nigh on impossible to access by other more traditional means) then users should demand they be issued with phones specifically for the purpose, as owning a phone is not prerequisite or mandated requirement to live in society—although if trends continue it likely will be.
Moreover, as phone technology easily lends itself to location tracking any mandatory requirement for phone vehicle licences would soon lead to mandatory location tracking (and easy to implement and impossible to disable with government/bank-issued phones).
That's the logical endgame, and it'd be showdown time. The question is does the citizenry have the guts and resilience to resist such authoritarian impositions.
Frankly, I'm horrified at how easily users of these essential services have been bought off by online conveniences, they've not only become careless and blasé but by default they've also conceded to the withdrawing—and in many cases—actual withdrawal of traditional services in favour of ones that both governments and banks have more control over—and in the bargain they've chucked privacy to the wind.
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I genuinely think if Sony offered a Linux phone and didn't lock it down too bad, they could serve as the catalyst for the whole market. I don't think I would trust any other company at this point to execute the platonic "Linux phone" we need. The uncompromising vision on building a fantastic product for the technically minded make them an obvious choice.
Sony tries out so many different types of products too across their entire lineup. They have made some memorable handhelds over the years, even their eink readers were special.