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Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by godelski »

looofooo0 wrote: post #172
Foobar8568 wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to send my new IBAN to my company, I can, no screenshot allowed on the screen with banking information. So I need to log on their website to do it. At least my new bank allows such screenshot and to copy account information directly from the app.

There is a special place in hell for people providing non copyable text information in the form of screenshots.

It's amazing how many "little" things there are like this. Like I honestly can't remember the last time I filled out a form which required something like my country and I didn't have to scroll to find it. All the information's there to make a good guess. But this is just one example of a million. There's just too many papercuts.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by ykonstant »

_heimdall wrote: post #69
bakugo wrote: post #63

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> I don't mind banks requiring it, I don't have to use that bank. What if all banks require it?

Banks aren't required. Its ridiculously inconvenient today to not have a bank account, but you aren't required to have one.

They are required for salary payments in my country.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by jancsika »

akagusu wrote: post #34
debo_ wrote: post #19

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In giant font at the top of the linked post: > apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate. Please don’t be one of the 34 people that replied to tell me Linux is not ready.

Linux is ready, what is not ready is the ecosystem.

Power management and cameras are working and stable on (non-Android) Linux phones? Which ones?

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by pabs3 »

ux266478 wrote: post #141
nextos wrote: post #130

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SailfishOS is quite efficient. On Sony devices, I experienced maybe 15% extra battery life compared to stock Android, which is quite good given that Sony ROMs are excellent. Sony is known for their Sony Open Devices Program.

I genuinely think if Sony offered a Linux phone and didn't lock it down too bad, they could serve as the catalyst for the whole market. I don't think I would trust any other company at this point to execute the platonic "Linux phone" we need. The uncompromising vision on building a fantastic product for the technically minded make them an obvious choice.

I get the impression they shut it down, but Sony had/have the Xperia Open Devices program. They were close to having their devices running purely on the mainline Linux kernel:

https://developer.sony.com/open-source

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by NicuCalcea »

looofooo0 wrote: post #172
Foobar8568 wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to send my new IBAN to my company, I can, no screenshot allowed on the screen with banking information. So I need to log on their website to do it. At least my new bank allows such screenshot and to copy account information directly from the app.

There is a special place in hell for people providing non copyable text information in the form of screenshots.

The other day I wanted to send someone proof that a transaction has gone through. A screenshot would have been the obvious choice, but of course, my banking app wouldn't let me do it.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by liendolucas »

I tried the fantastic DroidVNC-NG (KUDOS to the author) app because I wanted to see if I could stream a whole Android phone left at home at all times.

The idea was attempting to switch to PostmarketOS, so if I ever needed to use a banking app I could do it through this phone via a VNC client. You can't.

Banking apps black the login screen. Even if that is ok for 99.9% of users, I know what I'm doing and I do not absolutely have the fucking choice to disable that. The thing I found out is that every time I come up with something that should be doable, either Android or the fucking app or something else prevents me from moving away.

My biggest drag is banking because almost everything else I can leave it out. And I believe I don't have a choice.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by globular-toast »

frankzander wrote: post #195

What I don't get (plz help me) is why out of a sudden this vendors close up their phones and why is Google going this way? What's their intend?

More money. More power. Greed. Don't ever underestimate human greed. It doesn't matter what people have or where they are, they will always want more. We only have what we have now because of a few very peculiar people like Richard Stallman, but now it's just a bunch of normies in control.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by verisimi »

frankzander wrote: post #195

What I don't get (plz help me) is why out of a sudden this vendors close up their phones and why is Google going this way? What's their intend?

It's not sudden, and it's about control. You probably don't remember a time when you could switch/remove batteries from your phone. All manufacturers removed this ability.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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Post by cenamus »

Foobar8568 wrote: post #169
hypeatei wrote: post #62

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> prevents me from taking screenshots if an app author doesn't want me to The most frustrating part about this "feature" is that you don't know it's enabled until the screenshot is taken and you're left with a picture of nothing. That and some app authors thinking they're protecting you with this (referring to banking apps in particular)

I want to send my new IBAN to my company, I can, no screenshot allowed on the screen with banking information. So I need to log on their website to do it. At least my new bank allows such screenshot and to copy account information directly from the app.

They literally had me photocopy the phone screen because of the same issue.
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