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I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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This pretty much sums up my feeling on the new generation. I too don't understand what's "awe dropping" about it, and have finally switched from an iPhone 15 Pro to the Android ecosystem, where a flip phone is somewhat "awe dropping". I'm not fully convinced about it, but it's different, it's fun, it's clever, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. The only thing I disagree with here is about the Air. I think Apple's strate…

These are my thoughts exactly. I've seen a bunch of people who don't value thinness or lightness in a phone getting dismissive or outright angry at the existence of the Air, and I want to grab them and shake them until they get it. I don't want the Air at all, and that's exactly why I'm thrilled it exists: it will split the Pro buyers into form-valuers and function-valuers, so the function-valuers like me can get an iPhone with a huge battery and a vapor chamber in it.

If you're one of those people who goes "why can't they make the phone thicker and heavier with more battery life", you should be overjoyed at the Air, because now that those buyers are peeled off to a different SKU, the product line for you doesn't need to find a happy medium with them.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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The title is appropriate, in that it feels to me that most of the awe has gone out of these products/keynotes. This is maybe down more to the maturity of the category(/ies) than any fault of Apple's though. Perhaps they can be blamed for failing to introduce exciting products in new categories. I do find that wireless earbuds actually last much longer than the wired variety, despite the non-replaceable batteries. Bac…

Any decent earbuds have replaceable cables with standard two-pin connectors

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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> As for the AirPods, and true wireless earbuds in general, I find this product category to be the most wasteful. Unless someone comes up with a type of earbuds that have easily replaceable batteries, I’m not interested in buying something that’s bound to become e‑waste in a relatively short period of time.

I'm not a apple fan (been windows most of my life till moving to a new company that is Mac only, and have been on android for about 13 years at this point) but the airpods pro are maybe apples greatest product in a while (other then the M1 macbooks).

The audio quality+noise cancellation+transparency quality made them a super easy buy and I would buy the app3 as soon as my app2 die that's how much I love them as a android user. This is coming from someone who owns multiple iems and very expensive over the ears.

From everything reported so far, the app3 look like a solid spec bump at the same price, there isn't many products that keep that formula.

Edit: I am disappointed that the OP didn't talk about how all the iPhones now have "pro-motion" aka high refresh rate screens.

This is (personally) one of the biggest step up in quality, I would never buy a baseline iPhone because 60 Hz just looks gross to me now, it's immediately noticeable.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: “Sob stories” it’s easy to cynically dismiss this as just another marketing ploy, but I see two other ways to see it.

1. It’s primarily for the people at Apple and their partner manufacturers to realize and be reminded of the value of the work that they do.

2. It’s a message to the broader tech community that if you’re going to copy most of what we do, here’s a few that actually save lives.

Now will it sell more watches… probably. Is it a net positive? I think so.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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The title is appropriate, in that it feels to me that most of the awe has gone out of these products/keynotes. This is maybe down more to the maturity of the category(/ies) than any fault of Apple's though. Perhaps they can be blamed for failing to introduce exciting products in new categories. I do find that wireless earbuds actually last much longer than the wired variety, despite the non-replaceable batteries. Bac…

Apple is a hostage of its own marketing.

A modular iphone that has an easy to replace battery, easy to replace screen and is maybe 2mm thicker to account for it? That would be a sellout.

A convertible Macbook Air with a touch screen? It would be sold out.

Neckband-style airpods with all-day battery life? Might not sell out, but would be popular.

A best-in-class TV powered by Apple TV? Would probably sell well.

But all of these products would cannibalize sales of some other expensive iDevice.

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Some small carriers in Australia don't support eSIMs, even though they're required for Apple Watches and other devices, and also second phone numbers in phones without dual SIM card trays.

I'm hoping that the iPhone Air will make them prioritise eSIM support!

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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post #4

In the original announcement thread there was some speculation that the air is a precursor to folding models down the line. I hope that’s true.

I want that speculation to be true, but I also don't think that the Air is a stepping stone towards that. The risky parts on a folding phone are the bending screen and the hinge and the software features.

The iPhone Air tests none of those things.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Some small carriers in Australia don't support eSIMs, even though they're required for Apple Watches and other devices, and also second phone numbers in phones without dual SIM card trays. I'm hoping that the iPhone Air will make them prioritise eSIM support!

Seriously? Which ones don't support it, I actually have found more that are "esim only" these days (but I am someone who churns through ozbargain deals)

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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post #15

The title is appropriate, in that it feels to me that most of the awe has gone out of these products/keynotes. This is maybe down more to the maturity of the category(/ies) than any fault of Apple's though. Perhaps they can be blamed for failing to introduce exciting products in new categories. I do find that wireless earbuds actually last much longer than the wired variety, despite the non-replaceable batteries. Bac…

Apple is a hostage of its own marketing. A modular iphone that has an easy to replace battery, easy to replace screen and is maybe 2mm thicker to account for it? That would be a sellout. A convertible Macbook Air with a touch screen? It would be sold out. Neckband-style airpods with all-day battery life? Might not sell out, but would be popular. A best-in-class TV powered by Apple TV? Would probably sell well. But al…

> A modular iphone that has an easy to replace battery, easy to replace screen and is maybe 2mm thicker to account for it? That would be a sellout.

The number of people who might actually like this is very tiny. Most of them do product reviews. But their audience is not going to care. Think about your older uncle. Your niece in her 20s who loves to paint and read but doesn't want to replace hardware. That's what most people are like.

Those are the people who Jobs focused on impressing and enabling to do things they wouldn't do otherwise. That is the focus that has been lost without Jobs, IMHO, and it's the focus that makes the products better for people who want to get the most out of their products per unit of time invested in learning how to use it.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Some small carriers in Australia don't support eSIMs, even though they're required for Apple Watches and other devices, and also second phone numbers in phones without dual SIM card trays. I'm hoping that the iPhone Air will make them prioritise eSIM support!

Some carriers in the UK have been on the brink of providing eSIM support for several years, maybe Apple as often is the case can drive this forward.

I’m not sure what the issue is though, could it be a standards issue? Government tracking phone users? Someone being cut out of the money?

Answers please on a postcard.

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