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Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by xp84 »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #37
zdragnar wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some have replaceable pods / tanks, but most have no user serviceable parts whatsoever. One the liquid is low enough, the coil will burn a bit, and the whole thing should be disposed of. One shop near me would take used ones and send them off to be properly taken apart and what not, but most people just toss them I suspect.

If you're in the EU/UK the WEEE directive means anywhere selling them should take them back like-for-like to be directed into the correct waste stream. (they get paid some of the deposit on them to do so) I would be more fine with disposable vapes like this if almost all of them were recovered somehow, for the amount it subsidises production of Li-ion batteries.

Theoretically a high enough deposit could probably “fix the problem.” Like, if the empty was worth a $25 deposit most people would 100% take them back to the store. It would be annoying for people to have the high deposit, but it’s really a one-time expense.

On the other hand at least in the US, a deposit of a buck or two wouldn’t do much. California has that for cans and bottles, yet only maybe 10% of people turn them in. Most end up in curbside recycling (which doesn’t refund) or the garbage, indicating people don’t care about getting their nickel or dime back.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by xp84 »

WD-42 wrote: post #17
bombcar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like how places with bag bans often just end up with thicker plastic bags that can be sold for ten cents and claimed as “reusable.

They make perfect office/bathroom trash can liners

They do, but they still don’t make it back to the stores enough, and nobody has 16 wastebaskets to line every week. Also the old ones were just as suitable for wastebasket duty.

The bag laws have done nothing but increase the consumption of plastic, since stores still go through nearly as many, but they’re 5x thicker now.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by pavon »

ViscountPenguin wrote: post #32
bombcar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like how places with bag bans often just end up with thicker plastic bags that can be sold for ten cents and claimed as “reusable.

The majority of people reuse those bags, they're pretty great actually. Most people I know have slightly more expensive bags made out of fabric though.

Not here. Standing in line at stores like target that have them I see maybe 1/20 people checking out in front of me bring in reused disposable sacks, while 15/20 leave with new ones. Certainly not enough reuse to justify the extra thickness.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by rasse »

xp84 wrote: post #49
jimmaswell wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaping nicotine doesn't seem that bad to me. AFAICT the dangers outside simple addictiveness are moderate lung irritation and cardiovascular effects, but no strong evidence of cancer caused by vaping alone - far better than cigarettes, and still better than an equivalent drinking problem.

This is why to me it’s so damn disappointing to me that vaping is targeted so forcefully by the various scolds in the “regulate everything” camp when smoking isn’t yet eradicated. Things like banning flavor and stuff. They want it to be as unpleasant as tobacco, which reduces the likelihood of people switching from tobacco to vaping, killing many of those smokers as a way to “save” teens from taking up an overall not…

There are numerous other options for supporting smoking cessation that do not risk lung injury.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by guywithahat »

xp84 wrote: post #49
jimmaswell wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaping nicotine doesn't seem that bad to me. AFAICT the dangers outside simple addictiveness are moderate lung irritation and cardiovascular effects, but no strong evidence of cancer caused by vaping alone - far better than cigarettes, and still better than an equivalent drinking problem.

This is why to me it’s so damn disappointing to me that vaping is targeted so forcefully by the various scolds in the “regulate everything” camp when smoking isn’t yet eradicated. Things like banning flavor and stuff. They want it to be as unpleasant as tobacco, which reduces the likelihood of people switching from tobacco to vaping, killing many of those smokers as a way to “save” teens from taking up an overall not…

Maybe I'm just an old geeser but when I went back to grad school I was absolutely shocked at how many people vaped, and it seemed to have been because they started smoking flavored vapes. People would go to a party, either in high school or college, and the party would be permeated by some sweet smell. Curious kids/people would investigate, try vaping, and eventually get their own, becoming addicted.

As far as I can tell, banning flavored vapes has had a significant impact on reducing vaping/smoking new users, which is the ultimate goal. People who are currently addicted should primarily be motivated to quit, not find better tasting alternatives

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by afavour »

xp84 wrote: post #49
jimmaswell wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaping nicotine doesn't seem that bad to me. AFAICT the dangers outside simple addictiveness are moderate lung irritation and cardiovascular effects, but no strong evidence of cancer caused by vaping alone - far better than cigarettes, and still better than an equivalent drinking problem.

This is why to me it’s so damn disappointing to me that vaping is targeted so forcefully by the various scolds in the “regulate everything” camp when smoking isn’t yet eradicated. Things like banning flavor and stuff. They want it to be as unpleasant as tobacco, which reduces the likelihood of people switching from tobacco to vaping, killing many of those smokers as a way to “save” teens from taking up an overall not…

A counterpoint:

> A third of UK teenagers who vape will go on to start smoking tobacco, research shows, meaning they are as likely to smoke as their peers were in the 1970s.

> The findings suggest that e-cigarettes are increasingly acting as a “gateway” to nicotine cigarettes for children, undermining falling rates of teen smoking over the past 50 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/29/third-of-uk-...

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by nicbou »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #37
zdragnar wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some have replaceable pods / tanks, but most have no user serviceable parts whatsoever. One the liquid is low enough, the coil will burn a bit, and the whole thing should be disposed of. One shop near me would take used ones and send them off to be properly taken apart and what not, but most people just toss them I suspect.

If you're in the EU/UK the WEEE directive means anywhere selling them should take them back like-for-like to be directed into the correct waste stream. (they get paid some of the deposit on them to do so) I would be more fine with disposable vapes like this if almost all of them were recovered somehow, for the amount it subsidises production of Li-ion batteries.

That's the theory. I practice, even in famously recycling-obsessed Germany, it's impossible to return electronics in places that are required to accept them, even two years after that law passed. The staff is really confused when you try.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by sunsetonsaturn »

happyhardcore wrote: post #13
dudeWithAMood wrote: post #11

What were you doing to get traffic from the open Internet to your webserver at home? I always felt that was a risky proposition, but I might just be stupid.

VPS with public ipv4, connected to home network over Tailscale and forward the traffic with socat. You'd probably be fine opening a port directly but a small VPS is free most places so might as well make the most of it.

Could you elaborate more on the "a small VPS is free"? Except Oracle's free tier offer, I am not aware of others; I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by s-lambert »

Zak wrote: post #16
jrmg wrote: post #5

I wouldn’t want to be the lawyer who one day will have to argue how a device with USB C and a rechargeable battery can be classified as “disposable”. I thought the point of making them like this was that they technically are reusable, so they can sell them (to people who for some reason keep buying them and throwing them away!) in places where disposable vapes are banned.

I'm confused by why anybody would buy one of these when entirely reusable versions exist, but then vaping seems unwise to me in general except as a way to quit tobacco.

In Australia you need a prescription to get nicotine liquid but every convenience store in any big city sells disposables illegally for cheap.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by what »

xp84 wrote: post #52
WD-42 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They make perfect office/bathroom trash can liners

They do, but they still don’t make it back to the stores enough, and nobody has 16 wastebaskets to line every week. Also the old ones were just as suitable for wastebasket duty. The bag laws have done nothing but increase the consumption of plastic, since stores still go through nearly as many, but they’re 5x thicker now.

Why are you buying 16 bags worth of stuff every week? That seems like the bigger problem.
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