I've started to think something like petite-vue and twind would let you build small internal tools quickly, there are some major downsides to it which is why I haven't committed yet.
Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
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Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#12Some time ago while I was experimenting with writing Debian benchmarks[0], I found that by completely avoiding strings, using Uint8Arrays, and manually managing bounds/memory, I could squeeze out performance that almost made you forget you were writing JavaScript. I never ended up submitting a PR, but it was pretty eye-opening.
At one point I went into a rabbit hole and tried to build something similar on my own, but it got complicated very quickly given my limited compiler knowledge. That’s why I always thought Prepack[1] was such a cool idea.
[0] https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... [1] https://github.com/facebookarchive/prepack
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#13Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
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worked for me. See also: https://github.com/dagger8224/dagger.js
I'd guess people are getting different results because of the varying A records https://dns.google/query?name=daggerjs.org https://www.whois.com/whois/3.33.130.190 and https://www.whois.com/whois/15.197.148.33 are AWS https://www.whois.com/whois/185.199.109.153 and similar are GitHub and is almost certainly this repo https://github.com/dagger8224/dagger8224.github.io/blob/main...
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#15thanks for taking a look! Positioning: Think Alpine/Vue-like ergonomics but no build and WC-first. Size & perf: Focus is on simplicity and startup latency over framework features. I’m not posting synthetic benchmarks; if you have a real page you want me to try, I’ll profile it and share results. Interop: Works with native Custom Elements. I’m preparing examples with Shoelace/FAST. Security: Directives are sandboxed;…
FYI: daggerjs.org is resolving to a GoDaddy domain parked page right now. Will check out the repo linked at the end of your message.
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#16thanks for taking a look! Positioning: Think Alpine/Vue-like ergonomics but no build and WC-first. Size & perf: Focus is on simplicity and startup latency over framework features. I’m not posting synthetic benchmarks; if you have a real page you want me to try, I’ll profile it and share results. Interop: Works with native Custom Elements. I’m preparing examples with Shoelace/FAST. Security: Directives are sandboxed;…
Website looks dead. I get Godaddy domain parking.
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Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#17Is this aimed at being in the same role as petite-vue and alpinejs? They also don't have a build step. I've started to think something like petite-vue and twind would let you build small internal tools quickly, there are some major downsides to it which is why I haven't committed yet.
I started out developing UIs using petite-vue, unfortunately ended up rewriting it to use full Vue.js after running into too many of its limitations and issues, which given that it's abandon-ware wont ever be resolved. As such I'd strongly recommend against starting projects with PetiteVue and just use the ESM build of Vue.js which also doesn't require a build step, has the full feature-set, is actively used and maintained, etc.
Either way developing Web Apps (using Vue) without a build step using JS Modules is now my preference which I've written about in my Simple, Modern JavaScript post [1]
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#18I’d actually love to see something that goes in the opposite direction, highly optimized and compiled, where the result is as small, fast, and efficient as possible. I get that a lot of people dislike compilation, but once I have the CI set upI never found build steps to be a problem for me. Some time ago while I was experimenting with writing Debian benchmarks[0], I found that by completely avoiding strings, using U…
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#19I’d actually love to see something that goes in the opposite direction, highly optimized and compiled, where the result is as small, fast, and efficient as possible. I get that a lot of people dislike compilation, but once I have the CI set upI never found build steps to be a problem for me. Some time ago while I was experimenting with writing Debian benchmarks[0], I found that by completely avoiding strings, using U…
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Website looks dead. I get Godaddy domain parking.
Hey xupybd,thanks for reporting the issue,you may refer to the alternative site: https://000712133.deployed.codepen.website/#overview/introdu... Thanks