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Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by awesome_dude »

catlifeonmars wrote: post #49
awesome_dude wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IIRC Sam Altman has explicitly said that their plan is to develop AGI and then ask it how to get rich. There are still lots of currently known problems that could be solved with the help of AI that could make a lot of money - what is the weather going to be when I want to fly to in n weeks/months time, currently we can only say "the destination will be in which is typically " What crops yield the best return next s…

The weather thing doesn’t seem… realistic. Have you heard of chaotic systems?

We always think things are unsolveable, and impossible to decipher, right up until we do, in fact, solve them and decipher them.

Anything is possible, well, except for getting the next season of Firefly

Edit: FTR I think that weather prediction is, indeed, solveable. We just don't have the computing power/algorithms that fully model and calculate the state.. yet

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by Waterluvian »

catlifeonmars wrote: post #44
Waterluvian wrote: post #17

I think the interesting idea with “AI” is that it seems to significantly reduce barriers to entry in many domains. I haven’t seen a company convincingly demonstrate that this affects them at all. Lots of fluff but nothing compelling. But I have seen many examples by individuals, including myself. For years I’ve loved poking at video game dev for fun. The main problem has always been art assets. I’m terrible at art an…

I have a similar problem (available assets drive/limit game dev). What is your workflow like for generative game assets?

It’s really nothing special. I don’t do this a lot.

Generally I have an idea I’ve written down some time ago, usually from a bad pun like Escape Goat (CEO wants to blame it all on you. Get out of the office without getting caught! Also you’re a goat) or Holmes on Homes Deck Building Deck Building Game (where you build a deck of tools and lumber and play hazards to be the first to build a deck). Then I come up with a list of card ideas. I iterate with GPT to make the card images. I prototype out the game. I put it all together and through that process figure out more cards and change things. A style starts to emerge so I replace some with new ones of that style.

I use GIMP to resize and crop and flip and whatnot. I usually ask GPT how to do these tasks as photoshop like apps always escape me.

The end result ends up online and I share them with friends for a laugh or two and usually move on.

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by echelon »

back2dafucha wrote: post #19
xnx wrote: post #18

AI could've made someone unimaginably rich if they were the only one that had it. We're very lucky Google didn't keep "Attention is All You Need" to themselves.

I doubt we'll feel that way in 5 years.

Because now they're keeping everything to themselves?

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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dweinus wrote: post #29

I don't think most commenters have read the article. I can understand, it's rambly and a lot of it feels like they created a thesis first and then ham-fisted facts in later. But it's still worth the read for the last section which is a more nuanced take than the click-bait title suggests.

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Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by catlifeonmars »

awesome_dude wrote: post #51
catlifeonmars wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The weather thing doesn’t seem… realistic. Have you heard of chaotic systems?

We always think things are unsolveable, and impossible to decipher, right up until we do, in fact, solve them and decipher them. Anything is possible, well, except for getting the next season of Firefly Edit: FTR I think that weather prediction is, indeed, solveable. We just don't have the computing power/algorithms that fully model and calculate the state.. yet

Then I don’t think you fully grasp the nature of weather. Sure, anything is possible, but some things are much more likely than others, and small changes in weather months away is very very far down on the list of things that are likely to be solvable.

I’d even hold out hope for another season firefly <3

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by KPGv2 »

benoau wrote: post #32
Waterluvian wrote: post #17

I think the interesting idea with “AI” is that it seems to significantly reduce barriers to entry in many domains. I haven’t seen a company convincingly demonstrate that this affects them at all. Lots of fluff but nothing compelling. But I have seen many examples by individuals, including myself. For years I’ve loved poking at video game dev for fun. The main problem has always been art assets. I’m terrible at art an…

Yep this is a huge enabler - previously having someone "do art" could easily cost you thousands for a small game, a month even, and this heavily constrained what you could make and locked you into what you had planned and how much you had planned. With AI if you want 2x or 5x or 10x as much art, audio etc it's an incremental cost if any, you can explore ideas, you can throw art out, pivot in new directions.

> With AI if you want 2x or 5x or 10x as much art

Imagery

AI does not produce art.

Not that it matters to anyone but artists and art enjoyers.

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by Fade_Dance »

whistle650 wrote: post #56

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>Many psychiatric medications (SSRIs, lithium, ketamine for depression) are effective, but their exact pathways and why they work for some and not others are unclear.

>General anesthesia works consistently, yet the precise molecular-level reason consciousness disappears isn’t settled science.

(this response written by... AI)

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by whistle650 »

Fade_Dance wrote: post #58
whistle650 wrote: post #56

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>Many psychiatric medications (SSRIs, lithium, ketamine for depression) are effective, but their exact pathways and why they work for some and not others are unclear. >General anesthesia works consistently, yet the precise molecular-level reason consciousness disappears isn’t settled science. (this response written by... AI)

Agreed, and I did mention medicines as examples of things that work but we don’t understand. But they weren’t “made” by us in quite the same way imo.

Re: Will AI be the basis of many future industrial fortunes, or a net loser?

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Post by wsintra2022 »

>When any would-be innovator can build and train an LLM on their laptop and put it to use in any way their imagination dictates, it might be the seed of the next big set of changes

That’s kinda happening, small local models, huggingface communities, civit ai and image models. Lots of hobby builders trying to make use of generative text and images. It just there’s not really anything innovative about text generation since anyone with a pen and paper can generate text and images.

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