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Apple iPhone 5 US Carrier Comparison Chart

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#61

Looks like there's no competition here - Verizon is dominant. Even when it comes to price, they're not much more expensive, and actually cheaper if you've got 3+ members on a family plan.

Looks like AT&T is still the only option for simultaneous voice+data, though, due to antenna limitations: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/still-no-simultaneous-v...

This is SUCH a bummer. Honestly, I'm really happy with my iPhone 4. The one feature I was excited about was LTE and the promise that I'd get simultaneous voice and data on Verizon (I had an AT&T iPhone for years -- VZW service is vastly superior in Oregon). Now I'm seriously considering an Android device. If only I weren't so deep in the Apple ecosystem.

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#62

Not relevant for people who switch phone in two years, but AT&T's phone unlocking at the end of the contract or with account charges taken care of, is pretty neat.

Here's the AT&T unlock request page for anyone looking to unlock their out-of-contract iPhone4(S): https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/

I put in my request yesterday, but it has yet to go through...

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#63

Imagine how much of an advantage it'd be to only enforce a 1 year contract. That'd be a huge differentiator, as it would allow you to upgrade your iPhone on it's yearly release. I'm sure that would cause a massive switch in carriers for Apple fans.

Or just buy it unlocked and use Straight Talk (which is AT&T).

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#65

Imagine how much of an advantage it'd be to only enforce a 1 year contract. That'd be a huge differentiator, as it would allow you to upgrade your iPhone on it's yearly release. I'm sure that would cause a massive switch in carriers for Apple fans.

AT&T used to allow iPhone users an upgrade annually for the new iPhone despite being on a two-year contract. I'm not sure if they have for this round, but every other year, they simply changed upgrade eligibility for iPhone users right before the iPhone came out.

The problem is that this is very expensive. An iPhone costs $650 and you get it for $200. That means that the carrier is eating $450. Even if you argue that a carrier is getting a discount and it's only costing them $300-350, they have to earn that back. $300-350 over 12 months is $25-29.17 per month that they have to earn back, plus interest. So, you have a $30 data plan, and only $0.83-$5 of that is going to actually implementing, maintaining, etc. the network. If they're subsidizing the device by $400, giving you an upgrade ever 12 months would mean taking a loss of $40 not including the cost of creating and maintaining the network.

So, it's quite detrimental to a company's bottom line to offer that to the point that it isn't wonderfully feasible. Sure, you can say that it gets you the voice plans of those people who switch and maybe that can go to the subsidy as well and whatnot, but the margins are thin. I'm quite literally paying $40/mo for my iPhone plan as an add-on to a family plan (plus 1/5th of $20 for texting ($4) and 1/5th of $70 for voice ($14)). So, I'm paying a total of $58 and getting a $450 discount on the device. $450 over 12 months is $37.50 plus interest and so I would only be paying $20.50 per month for my actual usage. Even if I bring my own phone, there isn't a carrier that would give me a price near that low.

Frankly, I think it would be better for uses to pay the $649 up-front and have cheaper plans (and this does happen in many countries and can happen here if you want to buy the iPhone 5 for T-Mobile). However, even there I wouldn't be getting such a value. T-Mobile offers 500 minutes plus texting plus 2GB of data for $50/mo. For $8 more on a family plan, I'm getting $450 off my device which even if I can only upgrade every 24 months is an $18.75/mo value.

It would definitely be a huge differentiator. AT&T did this for many years to keep Apple fans happy and to prevent their yelling from overwhelming the press around the new device. However, it's really expensive. Even if you gained more customers, it likely wouldn't be worth it.

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post #64

Not looking forward to basically a 100% increase in my bill when Verizon pulls the plug on the grandfather unlimited plans.

I felt that was a disingenuous part of the chart. The author said that FaceTime only worked over cellular for AT&T when you moved to a shared data plan, but always worked on Verizon. That's technically true, but only really because Verizon won't offer customers subsidized pricing without moving to a shared data plan.

From Verizon's perspective, if you pay their post-pay rates and bring your own iPhone, you're paying them an additional $18+/mo since they don't have to cover the subsidy. As such, if you have a grandfathered plan, they care less since you're basically paying for a higher rate plan by not using a subsidy.

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#67

The thing that sucks is that I have two iPhone 4's that are grandfathered into the AT&T unlimited accounts and pay less than $100 a month for both. I'll probably never upgrade since I know I'll just get screwed by AT&T when they force me to move to LTE accounts.

AT&T isn't forcing customers to change plans (at least not during this upgrade cycle). Verizon is requiring shared data plans for upgrades, but AT&T is allowing grandfathered users to keep their plans. AT&T is, however, throttling past 5GB, but they're doing that whether you upgrade or not, IIRC.

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#69
post #11

What about prepaid? I'm dying to find out if, say, Cricket or Virgin's iPhone5 plans will be any better - I'm willing to buy up front.

Not relevant to LTE devices AFIAK, but I bought my Android phone outright and have it on the $30/month T-mo unlimited data, text, 100 mins plan. Couldn't be happier with it. Amazed to think I was spending over $100 with AT&T before.

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post #66
post #64

Not looking forward to basically a 100% increase in my bill when Verizon pulls the plug on the grandfather unlimited plans.

I felt that was a disingenuous part of the chart. The author said that FaceTime only worked over cellular for AT&T when you moved to a shared data plan, but always worked on Verizon. That's technically true, but only really because Verizon won't offer customers subsidized pricing without moving to a shared data plan. From Verizon's perspective, if you pay their post-pay rates and bring your own iPhone, you're paying…

That $18.75/month buys you much more than unlimited data, if it's a truly unlocked phone.
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