Live data from Hacker News

AI coding

geohot.github.io

1–10 of 299 posts

Re: AI coding

#2
> AI makes you feel 20% more productive but in reality makes you 19% slower. How many more billions are we going to waste on this?

Adderall is similar. It makes people feel a lot more productive, but research on its effectiveness[0] seems to show that, at best, we get only a mild improvement in productivity, and marked deterioration of cognitive abilities.

[0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6165228/

Re: AI coding

#3
Even though I don’t buy that LLMs are going to replace developers and quite agree with what is said, this is more of a critique of LLMs as English-to-code translators. LLMs are very useful for many other things.

Researching concepts, for one, has become so much easier, especially for things where you don’t know anything yet and would have a hard time to even formulate a search engine query.

Re: AI coding

#4
That was a really great read. Not saying I agree with it all, I’m maybe more in the camp that believes AI assisted coding is a time-saver but it’s refreshing (and overdue) to have a counterpoint to the deafening and repetitive drumbeat of the VC-backed hype machine.

Re: AI coding

#5
post #3

Even though I don’t buy that LLMs are going to replace developers and quite agree with what is said, this is more of a critique of LLMs as English-to-code translators. LLMs are very useful for many other things. Researching concepts, for one, has become so much easier, especially for things where you don’t know anything yet and would have a hard time to even formulate a search engine query.

I’ve found that ChatGPT and Perplexity are great tools for finding “that article I skimmed a year ago that talked about…”.

Re: AI coding

#7

> AI makes you feel 20% more productive but in reality makes you 19% slower. How many more billions are we going to waste on this? Adderall is similar. It makes people feel a lot more productive, but research on its effectiveness[0] seems to show that, at best, we get only a mild improvement in productivity, and marked deterioration of cognitive abilities. [0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6165228/

Research on _13_ people, that's a very important caveat when evaluating something like adderal.

Re: AI coding

#8
I agree.

I use LLM to do things like brainstorm, explaining programming concepts and debug. I will not use it to write code. The output is not good enough, and I feel dumber.

I only see the worst of my programming collegues coding with AI. And the results are actual trash. They have no actual understanding of the code "they" are writing, and they have no idea how to actually debug what "they" made, if LLM is not helpful. I can smell the technical debt.

Re: AI coding

#9

> AI makes you feel 20% more productive but in reality makes you 19% slower. How many more billions are we going to waste on this? Adderall is similar. It makes people feel a lot more productive, but research on its effectiveness[0] seems to show that, at best, we get only a mild improvement in productivity, and marked deterioration of cognitive abilities. [0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6165228/

Note that the study is just n=13 and on subjects without ADHD.

Re: AI coding

#10
There's a lot of complaining about current compilers / languages / codebase in similar posts, but barely any ideas for how to make them better. It doesn't seem surprising that people go for the easier problem (make the current process simpler with LLMs) than for the harder one (change the whole programming landscape to something new and actually make it better).
Post reply on HN