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Corporations are trying to hide job openings from US citizens

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Post by etblg »

fmajid wrote: post #134
surgical_fire wrote: post #101

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> the wage suppression Do immigrants earn less than locals? My impression is that the salary is similar. I am not in the US, but I rejected job offers from across the pond in the past and the salary seemed to be on the level with what I know is paid in the US for that position. My guess is that what they like in H1B workers is that they are sort of stuck with that employer, as changing jobs under such a Visa can be t…

Yes, but because the H1-B holders have to find a new employer within 2 weeks or lose their visa, the threat of firing is the same thing as deportation, making for a form of indentured servitude. That forced loyalty, more than the salary, is the real draw.

It's 60 days, not 2 weeks, and you can transfer an H1B over to a new job within that 60 days, or if you know you're going to be terminated (e.g. you're on a PIP) then you can transfer the H1B to a new employer anyway.

Wouldn't say it's necessarily easy to do so, but it's not an automatic deported from the country kind of deal.

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Post by Spooky23 »

ludicrousdispla wrote: post #54
zdragnar wrote: post #36

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DEI arose to public consciousness around the same time that "whiteness" was often used as a synonym for bigotry and privilege. So long as academic circles (and those who come from them, such as the people now in HR departments) believe that having white skin is a sin, DEI will never be D, E or I. The three words themselves are nice and generally good things to believe in, but the packaging philosophy it is wrapped up…

I've never met a single HR person that could be characterized as coming from, or even brushing up against, an academic circle.

Much the opposite. They are usually the weaker animals in the herd or people who flipped out of corporate finance to negotiate benefits.

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Post by lazide »

ajross wrote: post #105
zdragnar wrote: post #103

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I've watched HR people break the law discriminating against white job applicants in the name of DEI. One in particular was fired for it, but it'd be foolish to think that it isn't happening more elsewhere.

And the upthread commenter has personal experience with HR people discriminating too. So what? The answer is both cases is clear regulation, which is what DEI is about. Can it be misapplied? Sure. Do people do bad things? Obviously. Is the specific anti-white conspiracy you imagine a direct threat to society? Please.

I’ve personally, repeatedly, and in writing seen HR actively discriminate against white men - as in refuse to hire them, and actively go out of their way to push them out due solely to their skin color and gender. At major fortune 50 companies. For years.

And I’m not the only one.

In fact, consent decrees with the DOL and at least one major fortune 50 (Google) explicitly required them to do so, to maintain ‘proportional representation with the population’ because of ‘over representation’. Meanwhile, Indian men got a free pass (for one example).

Trump is mostly bullshit, but he’s in power because of bullshit like this pissing people off. That is a threat to society.

Mostly because none of the things he’s doing are going to actually solve the problem but just get people angrier and angrier at each other. But the problem, at least at one point, was very real.

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Post by rootusrootus »

silentsea90 wrote: post #64
throwmeaway222 wrote: post #9

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There are also Indians who loathe being on such teams and actively seek diverse meritocratic teams, as one of those Indians.

I have seen this myself. I have also experienced more than a few Indian colleagues who were far more critical of Indians in management than the rest of us were. I feel like there is an extra layer of dynamics that just isn't apparent if you are not accustomed to seeing it.

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Post by mrtesthah »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #135
gp90 wrote: post #109

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> It's extremely racist I'm not sure if the motive behind such behavior is racism. Instead, I think it's more likely the power play. That is, they would pick the population that is the easiest to command and to push them up the corporate ladder.

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Re: Corporations are trying to hide job openings from US citizens

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Post by tamimio »

That's the real reason for the job market crisis; it is not AI, it's just corporate greed to have borderline slaves to lower job wages and workers willing to work extra hours for peanuts. AI is just the scapegoat, easy to blame it on something that's still new while also milking investors' money by promising how it will reduce costs and increase profits. If the job market crisis were really from AI, not only should it happen within a few years of adopting such new tech, but we should see its impact on other industries like lawyers, medical doctors, administrators, and lastly on tech workers, not the other way around.

That's why I keep saying and repeating: the tech industry and especially the engineering one should be further regulated and restricted just like other professions out there, otherwise, you are only allowing anyone to scam and game the system with any potential bubble currently happening.

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Post by alephnerd »

back2dafucha wrote: post #112

Old news. This has been going on for decades. If you even look badly on youtube you will find corporate videos from "HR Consultants" teaching companies how to bury job listings so noone will be likely to find them. Your country sold you down the river 30 years ago.

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Post by oblio »

SilverElfin wrote: post #126
viridian wrote: post #73

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How so? There are 172 million Muslims in India.

I think he means since they aren’t originally “Indian” but are colonizers of India who arrived through invasion.

That might have been the case 200+ years ago but for sure the majority of Indian Muslims these days are just descendants of converted Hindus and Buddhists, etc.
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