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AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

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Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#51

all these companies could have been built with booze, sleep, and fun.

live like a monk to build a chatgpt wrapper that imagines what your cat is thinking! Give up on time with your social world to create a phone app that turns the things you say into ad data!

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#52
post #45

I would add “no eating”, who has time for that when you have a founder video to make

Indeed. Eating is found to be a major cause of wasted billions of hour per day in the world. Can you imagine productivity growth if people just stop eating.

This is a great argument for a dietary regimen of feasting before a sprint, intermittent fasting during the middle of it, and fasting fully for crunch weeks! I bet it could be so successful, I could start an AI company copying what others do, not changing a thing, and I'll just be so much more productive I'll wind up on top!

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#53

all these companies could have been built with booze, sleep, and fun.

live like a monk to build a chatgpt wrapper that imagines what your cat is thinking! Give up on time with your social world to create a phone app that turns the things you say into ad data!

Hi this is too real can you stop this train I want out

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#54
> Laqua, whose father is a lawyer for an insurance company, said he hires only people willing to work seven days a week. Of his 40-plus employees, around 30 are ex-founders. His welcome gift to new hires is a mattress to keep at work. > “I live at the office,” said Laqua, who considers himself the most hardcore of his peers. Employees share similar feelings. Though not a work requirement, Laqua said, “two-thirds of our early employees got Corgi tattoos.”

How do you get former founders to put in that kind of dedication to _someone else's company_?

Also, are these actually AI companies? By what definition? Corgi's home page appears to be _only_ a list of open positions presently, none of which are ML/AI engineers.

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#55

I noticed there is zero mention of burnout in the article, which is exactly what every one of these founders will get if they keep pushing at the crazy pace they are going at, and highlights the problem with this kind of mentality. Burnout is a bitch, at least in my case it felt like I developed ADHD. Couldn't focus on anything, couldn't remember things that were said at meetings. I managed to pull back and now thing…

I think there must be a genetic predisposition to burn out as I have noticed many people that should be burning out but do not. My burnout was clearly genetic (hEDS) as is the burnout of everyone I personally know. Looking at the stats of people hospitalized with Covid there appears to be a subset of people who will die before experiencing a level of stress that could induce burnout or even trigger post viral fatigue. My rough estimate is that 50% of the population cannot burn out. It appears to only become chronic burnout in 20% of those that do (10% of general pop) and half of those appear to have ADHD and or generalized joint hyper mobility (GJH) which suggests a strong genetic component to the duration and severity.

That said AI founders are not the general population and there are a few strong selection criteria biases that I think likely favors those who are likely to burn out.

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it’s a requirement, it is a dependency.

And if it's not a requirement, but simply something that is enjoyed? What utter tosh.

If one requires it to achieve enjoyment then it’s a dependency. It’s not a controversial or unusual thing. We got to be honest to ourselves.

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#57

Not sleeping is disastrous for productivity. Why would you advertise to your investors, customers, and coworkers that you’re intentionally cognitively impaired?

Apparently there are enough investors who take this as a sign of “grit”. They may well be the primary audience for these performative stunts.

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if it's not a requirement, but simply something that is enjoyed? What utter tosh.

If one requires it to achieve enjoyment then it’s a dependency. It’s not a controversial or unusual thing. We got to be honest to ourselves.

I'm at the "whatever" stage of this thread. Gods luck with that.

Re: AI Startup Founders Tout a Winning Formula–No Booze, No Sleep, No Fun

#59

I noticed there is zero mention of burnout in the article, which is exactly what every one of these founders will get if they keep pushing at the crazy pace they are going at, and highlights the problem with this kind of mentality. Burnout is a bitch, at least in my case it felt like I developed ADHD. Couldn't focus on anything, couldn't remember things that were said at meetings. I managed to pull back and now thing…

I think there must be a genetic predisposition to burn out as I have noticed many people that should be burning out but do not. My burnout was clearly genetic (hEDS) as is the burnout of everyone I personally know. Looking at the stats of people hospitalized with Covid there appears to be a subset of people who will die before experiencing a level of stress that could induce burnout or even trigger post viral fatigue…

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