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Post by nutjob2 »

throw7448488 wrote: post #180
chvid wrote: post #147

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Denmark is in a crazy situation where what we saw as a key trusted partner (the US) all of sudden is extremely hostile towards us due its re-ignited territorial ambitions in Greenland. In public discourse this is being met with riducule and disbelief but I believe behind the scenes in government it is being taken quite serious. And obviously having our payment infrastrcture in the hands of an adversarial nation is un…

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It's a self governing entity, why are you blaming Denmark?

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ambicapter wrote: post #35

Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

That's only one possible scenario, but more realistic and actual is a regular power outage, like the one that hit Berlin the other day. (ok that was sabotage / someone started a fire, but you get what I mean).

In the Netherlands the power grid is at capacity, which effectively means new businesses are on a waiting list to get connected; they do that to try and prevent power outages, but it does imply (to me, a layperson) that it wouldn't take much for the grid to get overloaded and shut down. It happened a few years ago [0], with high-voltage cables getting so hot they started sagging etc.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9J5D8jzrRo

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by matsemann »

ssl232 wrote: post #175
walthamstow wrote: post #153

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Honestly it seems like I am the only one in my local Aldi who does this. I see people picking up fish that is three days older than the one at the back.

The greatest downside to online grocery delivery is that you can’t then do this.

I work for an online grocer, and I really do think it's not really an issue due to two things for us:

* the amount of stock going through one fulfillment center instead of landing on shelves in smaller stores, means we never have old products laying around. The cucumber you get from us came in a few hours ago. The one in your store has been laying there for days and touched by many. 10 stores each need their own buffer to handle variable demand and thus overstock and get deliveries for certain products rarely. We don't. Our spoilage is so so low compared to traditional stores. * anyways, to alleviate the fears of ordering something that's about to expire, we guarantee x amount of days for perishable products.

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Post by port11 »

throw7448488 wrote: post #180
chvid wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denmark is in a crazy situation where what we saw as a key trusted partner (the US) all of sudden is extremely hostile towards us due its re-ignited territorial ambitions in Greenland. In public discourse this is being met with riducule and disbelief but I believe behind the scenes in government it is being taken quite serious. And obviously having our payment infrastrcture in the hands of an adversarial nation is un…

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Maybe the USA should do a better job at managing the USA? Compared to the EU, it has more crime, worse life expectancy, more alcoholism, problems with rail infrastructure… you see, that's a bit of a silly argument.

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Post by jandrewrogers »

throw7448488 wrote: post #180
chvid wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denmark is in a crazy situation where what we saw as a key trusted partner (the US) all of sudden is extremely hostile towards us due its re-ignited territorial ambitions in Greenland. In public discourse this is being met with riducule and disbelief but I believe behind the scenes in government it is being taken quite serious. And obviously having our payment infrastrcture in the hands of an adversarial nation is un…

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The poor lifestyle statistics seem to be a property of Arctic life generally, it isn’t unique to Denmark or any country with Arctic settlements. Humans are adaptable enough to survive up there but they don’t really thrive.

That is pretty obviously the nature of the environment. You can’t blame Denmark for it being like that, it isn’t a function of resources delivered. No one has ever been able to convert any part of the polar regions into a glorious utopia.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

W3zzy wrote: post #124
Eupolemos wrote: post #112

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Not 2 days ago, but in February, iirc. We are thankfully on quite the shopping spree, we have also decided to include women into conscription (and that conscripts can be used for real missions, iirc) and we are financing and building Ukrainian weapons like the Flamingo. Also, Scandinavia has pooled our airforces into one airforce, surpassing the UK, France etc. in size.

Belgian youngsters aged 17 wil get a voluntary call for 'vacation camps' in the army in a few weeks. Recently a lot of people were hired four the federal and regional governments to handle strategic supplies. All Belgians were asked to stock their own 3 day emergency kit.

I mean war aside, the 3 day kit is always a good idea - power outages happen, freak weather events, supply chain issues, strikes, or even not feeling like going out which is very common.

As for the army vacation camp, I think it's good experience (same with scouting for example), although there's probably a huge recruitment angle there.

Personally I wouldn't mind a stint in the military, but at the same time I'm nearly 40 and not exactly fit if you catch my drift. That said, the military is also looking for a lot of reservists, people who do some jobs outside of their day job, some in IT security, base guarding, that kind of thing.

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Post by chvid »

throw7448488 wrote: post #180
chvid wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denmark is in a crazy situation where what we saw as a key trusted partner (the US) all of sudden is extremely hostile towards us due its re-ignited territorial ambitions in Greenland. In public discourse this is being met with riducule and disbelief but I believe behind the scenes in government it is being taken quite serious. And obviously having our payment infrastrcture in the hands of an adversarial nation is un…

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Do you think the US is going to build railroads in Greenland?!

Anyway the campaign for Greenland is ramping up. And it goes from all the way from weird social media posts, oddly timed attacks on Danish companies (Orsted), huge US "diplomatic" build up in Nuuk, weird "little green men", various statements of agression by Trump and surrogates. And there is a Danish campaign on other side with a silly number of visits by the PM and the king, lots of political wins for the Greenlanders, Danish military build up, French involvement etc.

Entertaining to follow and also with consequences in unrelated fields like tech.

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Post by throw310822 »

ambicapter wrote: post #35

Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

We're nowhere near that, but EU leaders keep hinting that there is a big war coming and we should all be prepared. In fact my impression, as a European, is that if any war is coming is because EU leadership are actively rooting for one and waste no opportunity to stoke the tension. This news is just one of the many examples of this.

The Ukraine- Russia war is a regional war that is happening outside our borders- all we should have done was to use diplomacy to make sure that our interests and good commercial relations with all sides were preserved.

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Post by chvid »

jamesblonde wrote: post #166
chvid wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denmark is in a crazy situation where what we saw as a key trusted partner (the US) all of sudden is extremely hostile towards us due its re-ignited territorial ambitions in Greenland. In public discourse this is being met with riducule and disbelief but I believe behind the scenes in government it is being taken quite serious. And obviously having our payment infrastrcture in the hands of an adversarial nation is un…

The worst thing is the lack of solidarity towards the danes here in Sweden. If Trump turns off Microsoft, Sweden will shrug its shoulders and privately say - thank god it's not us. yet.

It is crazy; but it is wake up time for us Europeans. We are already seeing US campaigns against judges and legal scholars in the Netherlands, Italy, and Brazil.

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Post by wojciii »

scrollaway wrote: post #185
dmix wrote: post #99

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I have a feeling tens of thousands of drones would be a better investment if your concern is Russia vs NATO. But if it’s just a business reacting to popular sentiment then it’s a fine business strategy I guess. Or just useful spin / wealthy owners paranoia.

Don’t worry, most countries are buying tens of thousands of drones. That investment is happening. (Source: I work in this sector) (Worth noting: Your comment sounds like “I have a feeling fixing (critical bug 1) would be a better investment than (fixing critical bug 2)”. You fix both.)

I don't want to fix any legacy code. I want a design that doesn't contain the bugs.

Attacking a distributed grid would probably not be cost effective.

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