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Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

#92

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Man it's 2025 and we still WANT to opt out of cookies visually? Why don't we just have browsers that just do that.

Seems like it should be a browser setting that controls a request header.

Something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track ? Which failed in part because Microsoft turned it on by default which even further disincentivised publishers from respecting it.

Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

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> it's practically required, because it lets everyone know that the absence of the banner is not a violation of the law. Your "logic" is baffling

What I mean is that if they don't add it, they're going to get threatening emails from regulators saying "Hey, you don't have a cookie banner". Those regulators don't have any way of knowing how their site operates, so the small banner at least manages to inform them and keep Posthog from receiving emails. That is what I meant by "practically". I mean "in a practical sense" as opposed to in a theoretical sense.

And they can reply back: "Hey, you're wrong".

Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

#94
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It's neat but it runs like a dog. I opened a couple of things and tried to move the window... I'd take a statically generated bunch of webpages over this. If you're going to make one of those multi window webpages looking thing, make it good. To note, in the past, this was a big no-no because SEO was important. You had to have good SEO for search engines to index your content efficiently and show up well ranked in se…

What are you using that's causing performance issues?

It runs like a dream when playing with the first window. When opening a second window and dragging it around it stutters for a second then resumes back to full speed and every window after is full speed. (I'm assuming that's the browser going: "Oh wait, they really are using those functions every frame, let me spend a moment to optimize them so they're as fast as possible for future executions)

Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

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> EU law is just meritless pestering of people It is that. It has done literally nothing to improve anything whatsoever, in any country. And most of the "cookie management" scripts that people use, barely even work. Both the law and the way it's complied with in practice are a dumb solution to a problem that the EU should have forced browser vendors to solve. Only the user's browser can choose not to send back cookie…

How would that prevent sites from selling their users' data to third parties without consent server-side? GDPR is not about third party cookies, but about requiring informed consent.

The 'selling of data' is separate of course, but the banners do nothing to actually ensure that they aren't collecting data you don't know about. They're honor system, which is dumb when you could have browsers not send that data back without opt-in.

In other words, of course Facebook knows you like bacon if you've followed 5 bacon fan pages and joined a bacon lovers group, and they could sell that fact.

But without cookies being saved long-term, Facebook wouldn't know that you are shopping for a sweater unless you did that shopping on Facebook. Today they undoubtedly do know if you are shopping for anything because cookies exist and because browsers are configured to always save cookies across sessions.

Also, I always point this out when this topic comes up: Of all websites I visit and have to click stupid banners on, almost none of them are in the market of "selling data" or building dossiers about individuals ("Steve Smith bought flowers on June 19th. Steve is 28 years old. He has a Ford Explorer. He lives in Boston."). They just want to get metrics on which of their ads worked, and maybe to know aggregate demographics about their audience. My local water utility, Atlassian, and Nintendo to pick 3 sites at random, have never been and are not in the business of data brokerage. But they do need to show cookie banners to not be sued for imaginary harms under CCPA or GDPR (unless they want to not make any use of online advertising or even aggregate analytics).

Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

#98

I'm curious how well this will do. Marketing websites are extremely important for first impressions (unless you're Berkshire Hathaway [1]). Although this is impressive and unique, it took me a minute to get over the "learning curve". Reminds me of Jakob's Law, "Users spend most of their time on other sites. This means that users prefer your site to work the same way as all the other sites they already know" [2]. But…

> unless you're Berkshire Hathaway conversely, Berkshire Hathaway's website gives a great first impression

I wonder what the ad costs and why it's there in the first place

Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

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post #67

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> EU law is just meritless pestering of people It is that. It has done literally nothing to improve anything whatsoever, in any country. And most of the "cookie management" scripts that people use, barely even work. Both the law and the way it's complied with in practice are a dumb solution to a problem that the EU should have forced browser vendors to solve. Only the user's browser can choose not to send back cookie…

If you like things the way they were before the law, just answer yes to all cookie banners you see. It does not take time if you don’t care to read it. Yours click yes, and they will remember you want to be tracked.

I do click yes. It still wastes my time since especially on mobile they obscure at least 1/3 of the viewport. They're just like the other popups that are now on most every site: The "Sign up for our newsletter" or "Get 10% off by signing up for emails", the paywall, the "It looks like you're using an adblocker."

There's a reason people have always hated popup ads even though "just close them" has always been an option.

Re: Why our website looks like an operating system

#100

This must have taken them a really long time. That worries me, don't they have other things to do? If engineers have so much free time that they can work on nice & fun things like this that aren't totally necessary, they must have overhired (which is wasteful and a sign of impending layoffs) or they don't have enough actual work to do (which is a sign the company is stagnating). Or the time and money required to do t…

This is why we can't have nice things...
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