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Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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In case you haven't contemplated this logistics challenge before: the key is you need to stock shelf-stable products in these stores and at some point in their shelf life, transfer them out to other stores for actual consumption and back fill the emergency stores with fresh lots of new shelf stable products. You're just buying more shelf-stable supply once and then managing the transit through the supply chain with s…

> stock shelf-stable products in these stores and at some point in their shelf life, transfer them out to other stores for actual consumption

Back in my days in retail, we were ordered to put resupply as FILO into the shelfs. It makes sense to sell the oldest products first. So why the transfer shuffle?

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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It's a very good idea. I wish we had good ideas in the United States.

It's a private grocer, it's not like the government is doing it. So anyone could set this up.

It also doesn't even sound like that great of an idea. Is each store going to have enough to serve everyone in the 50km region for 3 days?

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Hah yeah Denmark is very boring compared to many other countries :) ... and not meant as a warrantless dig against a large country with a high ratio of pistols-per-capita, but I did research it yesterday and from what I can tell America hasn't changed the 10 rights in their Bill Of Rights ever, whereas Denmark has made major revisions to its entire constitution multiple times.

We change our Bill of Rights all the time. We just do it by "reinterpreting" it, i.e. applying the prejudices of the last 4 or 5 Presidents. Conveniently, none of it actually means anything at all, so it is routinely reinterpreted to mean exactly the opposite of what it might appear to mean. That's not quite true. You still can't quarter soldiers in somebody's house. We Americans have a firm fixed belief in the Third…

What I said was the US hasn't changed the 10 amendments (as far as I know) - they're written exactly the same way they were hundreds of years ago, right?. Agree with you it seems like people are playing whack-a-mole trying to fiddle with the interpretations, but maybe they need to have a look at the actual core 10 amendments in the first place?

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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>The idea is that no one should be more than 50 km from such a store and it should prevent hoarding/panic buying as people will know basic food will be available in an emergency. I dont think that is how it works? That is assuming people wont flock out to buy everything in the emergency store. And do people visit it every day or are these "Emergency Stores". After all they need to replenish stock. Or are these simply…

We all saw what happened with Covid and panic buying. I remember when initial reports about it started coming out and something about it told me this might actually become something serious. So I went and loaded up on flour and yeast, rice, cooking oil, lots of non perishable items and a bunch of meat in a huge costco run before it took off. I had enough to last me a good year if my family had to ration. Then it spre…

Its a thing. Living in hurricane alley, I see it all the time. Lines at gas stations, grocery stores, hardware stores. My strategy is to wait till the 11th hour after supply trucks have restocked everything and shop in peace.stores are open, quiet , sparsely trafficed, usually stocked up at this point. Works every time

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

I don't think Denmark in particular is preparing, because at the end of the year their national postal service will cease to deliver letters (after the government removed the legal requirement for it to do so), and more than 85% of Danes will only be able to receive government and commercial letters in digital form via a privately owned cloud service (e-Boks). That is an alarming level of concentration. If I were hyp…

Wow. I'm in software and my whole house is as automated as can be, but I want my important documents physical, and delivered via the mail.

Credit card bills, notices, etc. I don't want to have to log in every time I want to check a bill / notification, only to have to pull out my Yubikey or phone.

Not to mention having to click 'no' to all the popups about new credit cards or subscription upgrades.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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3 days isn't very long, it's reasonable to look at this as a generic resiliency thing rather than response to some identifiable risk.

It’s also reasonable to look at it as a “the populace goes nuts every time there’s some minor shock to the logistics chain, so might as well prepare for that reaction”

Yeah, there doesn't need to be a shortage of toilet paper to cause problems, just the fear that panic buying might start so you better stock up before they hit. It's basically a prisoner's dilemma, you know you shouldn't panic buy, but if you don't and other people do it's rational to do it.

What would be a signal that you should panic buy to beat the rush? A drone shot down over Poland? Article 4 being invoked? What if a falling drone causes a casualty?

Simply having deeper stocks will let them avoid the empty shelf photos that can tip the balance into panic buying.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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we may or may not but I don't think this is reflective of it. This is just the fragility of digital societies were one hack or outage can kill entire national payment systems. A few decades ago any store could run three days without power or telecoms. Here in Germany foreigners often scoff about how prevalent cash is, but to this day nobody has yet invented a payment technology that works without electricity, without…

Precious metals fill all of your requirements. They do have other challenges, some shared with FIAT, some unique, but we've had the "technology" to solve this problem for thousands of years.

Tell me, what weight in gold do I exchange for a loaf of bread? Do you have a way to measure and subdivide it to hand? Do you trust the scales being lent to execute this?

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

This is because of the Ukraine war. We as a country are exposed to being attacked by Russia. Be that cyber attacks or destruction of assets by sleeper agents. So instead of decentalizing the electrical grid and making sure it's secure someone at Dansk Supermarked thinks it will earn them money to be prepared for some future crisis. I find the article native.. it says they trust Nets (payment company) to work offline…

I have a feeling tens of thousands of drones would be a better investment if your concern is Russia vs NATO. But if it’s just a business reacting to popular sentiment then it’s a fine business strategy I guess. Or just useful spin / wealthy owners paranoia.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Good idea. Smart that they can withstand 72-hour power issues. 3 days still seems short, but much better than current. I'm with the mormons on this issue, who emphasize preparedness for emergencies. Typically storing up to a year of non-perishable food.

3 days to allow emergency response to arrive is a lot of buffer, when otherwise after 2 days you have to start moving to find water and plan to find food.

Combined with things in people's houses that likely gets you to about a week before anyone is going without.

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