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You seem pretty het up over some basic resilience.
Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"
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#22>The idea is that no one should be more than 50 km from such a store and it should prevent hoarding/panic buying as people will know basic food will be available in an emergency. I dont think that is how it works? That is assuming people wont flock out to buy everything in the emergency store. And do people visit it every day or are these "Emergency Stores". After all they need to replenish stock. Or are these simply…
> That is assuming people wont flock out to buy everything in the emergency store. Well, you could make everything really expensive in these emergency stores during an emergency.
Isn’t this just price gouging which is illegal in much of the US at least, I don’t know about internationally.
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#23Without power they could use backup sources but without telecoms isn't payment going to be difficult to impossible? (except those who had sufficient cash before the emergency)
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hah yeah Denmark is very boring compared to many other countries :) ... and not meant as a warrantless dig against a large country with a high ratio of pistols-per-capita, but I did research it yesterday and from what I can tell America hasn't changed the 10 rights in their Bill Of Rights ever, whereas Denmark has made major revisions to its entire constitution multiple times.
We change our Bill of Rights all the time. We just do it by "reinterpreting" it, i.e. applying the prejudices of the last 4 or 5 Presidents. Conveniently, none of it actually means anything at all, so it is routinely reinterpreted to mean exactly the opposite of what it might appear to mean. That's not quite true. You still can't quarter soldiers in somebody's house. We Americans have a firm fixed belief in the Third…
Wait til the national guard gets sick of sleeping on floors during their terrorism deployments to Blue cities
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
We change our Bill of Rights all the time. We just do it by "reinterpreting" it, i.e. applying the prejudices of the last 4 or 5 Presidents. Conveniently, none of it actually means anything at all, so it is routinely reinterpreted to mean exactly the opposite of what it might appear to mean. That's not quite true. You still can't quarter soldiers in somebody's house. We Americans have a firm fixed belief in the Third…
Wait til the national guard gets sick of sleeping on floors during their terrorism deployments to Blue cities
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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"
#26Three days seems low, but any resilience is better than no resilience.
A big chunk of society has realistically 2-3 days of groceries in their house, plus maybe a 5-year-old bag of rice or pasta and can of string beans buried way in the back. If you have a 1-6 year old you're probably buying 1-3 gallons of milk per week, and need to get more tomorrow.
As much as I detest organised religion, the Mormons have a pretty good take on this. They strive to have a six month supply of food/water/cash on hand at all times.
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#27Does this just mean bags of rice/beans? 10kg of rice will store quite a while and provide many days of food.
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#29>The idea is that no one should be more than 50 km from such a store and it should prevent hoarding/panic buying as people will know basic food will be available in an emergency. I dont think that is how it works? That is assuming people wont flock out to buy everything in the emergency store. And do people visit it every day or are these "Emergency Stores". After all they need to replenish stock. Or are these simply…
We all saw what happened with Covid and panic buying. I remember when initial reports about it started coming out and something about it told me this might actually become something serious. So I went and loaded up on flour and yeast, rice, cooking oil, lots of non perishable items and a bunch of meat in a huge costco run before it took off. I had enough to last me a good year if my family had to ration. Then it spread like fire and people went crazy. I remember being at costco for a couple things I didn't think to stock pile (toilet paper) and there was virtually no meat left on the shelf. They had to queue the door as so many people were there to panic buy.
So if an event happened that even slightly appeared to suggest things might get tough for a while people will always panic buy. Without limits those with money will buy it up.
I did the same thing like a couple years after initial Covid when we had massive flooding in Abbotsford. I heard on the news something like an estimated 100,000 chickens were killed in the flood. I stood up, grabbed my keys and got into my car. I went and bought like a few hundred dollars in chicken. 2 days later facebook was full of posts about how all the chicken is gone and none on the shelves. Luckily it didn't last long and I believe they managed to get a bunch from Washington state but it was all at an increased cost.
I am not rich but I am thankful that I am in enough of a position that I can load up if I feel there might be a need to. A few people said I was part of the problem buying lots like that buy I always did it preemptively before the surge started. And in my defense when you literally could not buy toilet paper, I kept a bunch in my car. I work as a health care working visiting people at home. I gave out dozens of rolls so elderly could have it meaning I would at times run out. I also have helped out countless clients with no food out of my own pocket. But I am the provider for my family so I need to ensure they are okay.
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#30Without power they could use backup sources but without telecoms isn't payment going to be difficult to impossible? (except those who had sufficient cash before the emergency)
You can do offline verification of payment cards, there's just higher fees and lower limits on payments.
This is a common way people get their current accounts into debt without authorising an overdraught.