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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't make it sound like Apple is some sort of victim of regulation who's being picked on the whole time. They will not get fines and lawsuits if they make a foldable phone with a display that degrades over time. I do think a move like this will hurt their reputation for making durable devices. They are a victim of their own success a little here.

> Don't make it sound like Apple is some sort of victim of regulation who's being picked on the whole time. I didn’t say this. I would merely accept other companies being held to the same standard. > They will not get fines and lawsuits if they make a foldable phone with a display that degrades over time. This will 100% happen. When it does I will come back and post here.

They never got any significant fine for bendgate, "you're holding it wrong", problematic butterfly keyboards or secretly slowing down iphones due to degraded batteries.

Am I missing some other blunder?

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

#83
post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

I had never seen one in the wild until I made a new friend recently, who has one of the foldable Samsung devices. My initial impression was that it is clunky, way too thick/large for comfortable pocket storage+running and it looks cheap for how much it cost... and last week my friend said he got his first ever dead pixel of any of his devices on the foldable phone. Take that opinion and info as you will.

I know less than ten people with foldable phones, but without fail they all claim that the screen is durable, but I have yet to see any foldable phone without a cracked screen after a few years.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

#84
post #42

I hope the iPhone Air is successful. Folding phones seems so obviously a gimmick. A year from now many of these relatively affordable folding phones will be e-trash, and social media will be full of complaints and retrospective wisdom about how they could never have been reliable. But consumer product offerings are full of gimmicks. Apple is trying not to give into herd mentality.

My parents are both on their third flip phones. Some people really like the form factor

It's funny. When/If Apple releases a foldable iPhone, suddenly most of these critics will think it's the greatest idea ever.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

#85

I'll be totally honest, I do not get the appeal of foldable phones, at least with the designs I've seen so far. I guess you can unfold it to get a bigger 2-part screen? That's about it? I'd imagine that having it be un-foldable compromises the battery life, overall thickness (when folded) and weight to at least some extent - plus it costs way more. Is the additional screen real-estate really worth that?

I could see it for older people.

My mom and uncles all use extremely large font sizes, they’re barely able to see a whole text at once and they check pictures by traversing them while highly zoomed.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

#86
post #11

Samsung is no longer leading the pack for folding. They refuse to innovate; Fold 7 is almost identical to Fold 4. Cameras are sub-par and they removed pen support. Meanwhile Honor Magic V5 has pen support on both screens, top of the range cameras, silicon-carbide batteries, and is 4.1mm thick unfolded!

Almost identical? The Fold 4 was 14.2mm thick and weighed 263g while the Fold 7 is 8.9mm and weighs 215g.

The Z Fold 4 feels like two flagships stacked in your pocket. The Fold 7 is lighter than an iPhone Pro max and only a vinyl sticker thicker. It feels identical to a flagship in your pocket but it's got an 8" screen. Not innovative? Where's Apple's innovation toward an 8" smartphone?

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

Sounds horrible to me. Why would I want to do the extra step of flipping things open and typing in two form factors. But then I’m not really watching long form videos on my phone so maybe I’m just not the target market.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

#89
post #16

So the facts we know are that 1) Samsung market share rising from 23% to 31% and 2) they recently released new foldable phones. But do we know that's the actual primary reason for the increase? I couldn't tell that from the article. The article mentions engagement of specific social media posts, but that's as much as it, without any sales number/estimates from anyone.

Foldable phones are selling like hot cakes outside the U.S. but I don't know about the U.S. market. Could be catching up.

   Here are some things to know about folding phones

   1. They're like expensive cars. Do not own one without a warranty
   2. As soon as the new model comes out, swap it in
   3. If you're into smaller phones, they're a good option
   4. They are not for the financially conscious. Those things are kind of a status symbol

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

#90

I'm curious how quickly that trend will reverse when Google fulfills their promise to lock down sideloading on android. Samsung makes nice hardware, but their bloatware is infuriating. I spend a lot of time on every new device, using ADB to purge as many samsung apps as I can. I'm getting tired of doing it. Once I can't sideload anymore on android, my next phone will be an iphone.

The trend, if there is one, will be effected in no measurable way when a few nerds bail because they can't remove Samsung's browser.

By the way, outside of core phone features like Phone (dialer,) Settings, Camera, etc. you can disable or uninstall everything else without sideloading anything.

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