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GrapheneOS and forensic extraction of data (2024)
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GrapheneOS does not have Tor "directly on the operating system". You are terribly misinformed about all of this it seems.
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This is kinda paranoid speech. GrapheneOS and Tor remain two of the best projects out there for privacy. I'd love to hear of other open alternatives, if any.
..."I don't trust google hardware, but I trust hardware from a dictatorial controlling regime" also does not really help your argument, sorry.
Besides, they seem to be working with some OEM to get their own phone out.
I'd love to receive daily updates on this, but it's a new development, updates are scarce and this things take time.
I hope sometime they'll collaborate with fairphone and others.
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This is a deeply horrible take.
“From a forensic perspective” if one uses a cheap Chinese phone, as you suggest, anyone with one of tens of forensic extraction tools (including the US government!) will immediately own your phone as soon as they plug into it (seriously, as a very public example MediaTek SOCs until very recently all have fatal flaws in the boot ROM).
If you use a Google phone, maybe a deeply embedded secret NSA implant will eventually activate late one night under the glow of your tinfoil hat, but by and large most people will not be able to extract all of your data in ten seconds by plugging into your phone.
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> Tor ... a known VPN
This is like freaking out about dihydrogen monoxide in the water supply.
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Re: GrapheneOS and forensic extraction of data (2024)
#18There is no such thing like "bad government" and "good government". I mean - it really depends on people's views, therefore we must not blissfully put our data into govt hands because "they will protect us from terrorists and child rapists". What they will do, actually, is that for sure they will abuse innocent citizens at some point of time. They will. Even if they don't, they will. Or maybe they are doing it right…
> There is no such thing like "bad government" and "good government".
Of course there is, compare the government of Finland to that of North Korea. Just because there are shades of grey and human institutions are generally susceptible to corruption greed an power politics doesn't mean there aren't governments that are different not only in degree but in kind.
Re: GrapheneOS and forensic extraction of data (2024)
#19There is no such thing like "bad government" and "good government". I mean - it really depends on people's views, therefore we must not blissfully put our data into govt hands because "they will protect us from terrorists and child rapists". What they will do, actually, is that for sure they will abuse innocent citizens at some point of time. They will. Even if they don't, they will. Or maybe they are doing it right…
I think this sort of thinking is symptomatic of something very problematic: that if a government doesn't align with your views, it's a bad one. We've forgotten that, in order for a civilization to survive, with many, many viewpoints, we must compromise sometimes.
Re: GrapheneOS and forensic extraction of data (2024)
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. When the government fails to delivery what people need (not necessarily wants), you have a bad government. When gangs and bandits (or drugs, or diseases, or whatever) takes on the street, it's not about people's view, it's just bad stuff that the government need to address or there's no point on having a government.
The 50s~70s are idealized by many as an American golden age, despite higher reported crime. Law enforcement back then did not have AI-powered surveillance camera networks, widely deployed IMEI stingrays, private data-brokers, or the ability to remotely activate any phone's microphone with 0-click RCE.
What's the 0-click RCE thing?