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DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#52
post #7

It is absolutely wild seeing people who do not know how to code building and shipping computer games. This kind of language is fascinating/terrifying: > I assume doing all this computationally is more processor-intensive than using pre-rendered monsters, but it’s very smooth for me on both desktop and phone, so it must not be too intensive. I guess I’ll hear from people if it’s choppy on their device. I think the nat…

The number of monsters on the screen doesn't seem to affect playing speed for me, but when the wall of fire appears it slows down the game very noticeably. (Using Firefox on desktop.)

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#54
post #7

It is absolutely wild seeing people who do not know how to code building and shipping computer games. This kind of language is fascinating/terrifying: > I assume doing all this computationally is more processor-intensive than using pre-rendered monsters, but it’s very smooth for me on both desktop and phone, so it must not be too intensive. I guess I’ll hear from people if it’s choppy on their device. I think the nat…

> It is absolutely wild seeing people who do not know how to code building and shipping computer games.

It existed with adobe flash. As much as programmers hated flash, it allowed artists with little technical skills to create awesome mini games.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#55
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already had to beat "I made a spreadsheet", which continues to be pretty damn hard even for large teams of experienced engineers - ask your finance team sometime how many custom spreadsheets they use regularly. A) Lots of useful apps aren't a great fit for a spreadsheet. AI seems to be opening many of those up the same way. B) Lots of spreadsheets have bugs which cause then to give wildly inaccurate results, which…

Maybe I don't know enough about spreadsheets but two dimensions isn't enough for most applications. Maybe pivot tables? They are too hard to figure out. Need something like "SQLSheet" that takes a more complex data structure and presents viewing and editing it in a natural way with drill down and joins etc. AI should be able to help you design the DB and then create a tool to interact with it.

The people using these sheets have no idea what you’re talking about. They use multiple sheets to layer the dimensions and understand pivot tables perfectly.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#56

Damn this hit me in a weird spot. The game looks fun, but the fact that you said "i cannot code" and managed to pull this off with sloppy ai is really scary. I know this is just fun and games, but i cant even start to imagine what the code is like.

Spoiler : the code is not so bad

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#57
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I don't know enough about spreadsheets but two dimensions isn't enough for most applications. Maybe pivot tables? They are too hard to figure out. Need something like "SQLSheet" that takes a more complex data structure and presents viewing and editing it in a natural way with drill down and joins etc. AI should be able to help you design the DB and then create a tool to interact with it.

The people using these sheets have no idea what you’re talking about. They use multiple sheets to layer the dimensions and understand pivot tables perfectly.

Are people who understand relational databases and people who understand pivot tables disjoint sets?

I can look at someone’s finished pivot table and reproduce it from the data through other means, but any explanation of what a pivot table actually is and does reads like pure gibberish to me.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#58

Damn this hit me in a weird spot. The game looks fun, but the fact that you said "i cannot code" and managed to pull this off with sloppy ai is really scary. I know this is just fun and games, but i cant even start to imagine what the code is like.

I'm not here to defend generative AI (in fact, I'd say do not use it unless you already know the language/framework well enough to clean up the output) but we have got to stop arguing from a place that assumes humans don't produce sloppy code in equally alarming volumes.

About half of my week is spend troubleshooting old legacy code for this or that industrial automation devices and PLCs, the latter being their own animal driven by ladder logic. Regardless if it's some firmware in C, some proprietary app pounded out in some ancient .NET version or just plane old PLC programming, the amount of times I have puzzled over what the heck the original programmer was thinking is mind blowing. Prior to moving into this position, I had no idea what the crufty greybeards meant when they were griping about spaghetti code. Now I do. Stepping back through someone else's work, often done with some kind of set-it-forget-it mindset because, for some reason, people create things and ignore that the environment will eventually change, is the biggest, dumbest headache. So dumb, that about a year ago, I start practicing things like writing firmware from scratch because just starting from zero turned out to be easier than trying to fix someone's old, convoluted mess.

Most humans code crap. Some humans code very, very well and write beautiful, eloquent software as a result. Congrats to those in that crowd, but understand they are the minority. So, when we started feeding a stochastic parrot some code to teach it to do our work for use, we fed it garbage. And what happens when garbage goes in?

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#59
I’m not impressed by ChatGPT writing the code for this game. The author has beyond average vision and taste. I’m excited to see what other creative little geniuses will be able to do when these tools get better and cheaper. I think creatively we are living a moment comparable to the introduction of portable 35mm cameras in the 1920s.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

#60
post #30

Finally, a game that accurately simulates my daily productivity. I open it intending to play for 5 minutes and somehow 3 hours later I'm still there, having accomplished nothing useful, with a vague sense of dread and the feeling that demons are chasing me. The verisimilitude is uncanny.

If you did this at work, relax; it just means you've finally "made it" in your career!
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