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Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Well... I'm not going to buy anything with that stupid chip then. Period.

I was actually thinking about switching to AMD. Not that it'd make any difference...

For what it's worth, I'm incredibly satisfied with my AMD FX-6200.

Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Intel's decision to support only Windows 8 on Clover Trail might work for laptops but seems very risky for tablets, where x86 tablets running Windows 8 look to be priced close to Apple's Ipad and significantly higher than Google's Nexus 7 and Amazon's Kindle Fire HD. Uhm, they surely meant the other way around? Practically no one have ever switched OS on a tablet/phone whereas on a laptop you'd certainly expect to be…

which is probably more competitive to the reduced feature set of smartphone-based devices such as android and iOS

Walled-garden says no. That and the fact that you can bootstrap and run Debian on Android on ARM, for starters.

Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Couple of ways to take this: 1) Microsoft has exerted leverage over Intel and got them to go down the preferred supplier route. Possible, and not overly surprising. 2) Intel is trying to carve a niche out and thinks its best bet is with the old hound. 3) The boring technical reason that there's loads of implementation and they can't be bothered making the changes to the Linux packages. It sounds like it'll run but wi…

Option 3.

It's probably not that they can't but more that they won't because they aren't going to make any cash out of it with Linux.

It's also because they are scared of ARM getting a head start on Win8 tablets.

If they do this with a Core 2 and an IGP, then I'll start worrying.

Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Couple of ways to take this: 1) Microsoft has exerted leverage over Intel and got them to go down the preferred supplier route. Possible, and not overly surprising. 2) Intel is trying to carve a niche out and thinks its best bet is with the old hound. 3) The boring technical reason that there's loads of implementation and they can't be bothered making the changes to the Linux packages. It sounds like it'll run but wi…

Option 3. It's probably not that they can't but more that they won't because they aren't going to make any cash out of it with Linux. It's also because they are scared of ARM getting a head start on Win8 tablets. If they do this with a Core 2 and an IGP, then I'll start worrying.

I'd bet on 3, too. Sounds like they slapped the only good-enough gfx core they are sure will work on an Atom, so they'd have something that at least works well with Windows 8 at launch. The next-gen Atom cores will use the same gfx core as their Ivy Bridge processors, but that won't be ready for some time.

Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Option 3. It's probably not that they can't but more that they won't because they aren't going to make any cash out of it with Linux. It's also because they are scared of ARM getting a head start on Win8 tablets. If they do this with a Core 2 and an IGP, then I'll start worrying.

I'd bet on 3, too. Sounds like they slapped the only good-enough gfx core they are sure will work on an Atom, so they'd have something that at least works well with Windows 8 at launch. The next-gen Atom cores will use the same gfx core as their Ivy Bridge processors, but that won't be ready for some time.

It probably means Windows 8 is the only OS it supports. Even Windows 7 might not work on it.

Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Couple of ways to take this: 1) Microsoft has exerted leverage over Intel and got them to go down the preferred supplier route. Possible, and not overly surprising. 2) Intel is trying to carve a niche out and thinks its best bet is with the old hound. 3) The boring technical reason that there's loads of implementation and they can't be bothered making the changes to the Linux packages. It sounds like it'll run but wi…

Option 3 has no basis since Intel doesn't need to write a single line of code to get their new chip supported under Linux, they just need to release the specs. Which brings us to:

4) Just like many graphics chips, this processor does some black magic to boost performance and Intel doesn't want to give any clues to competitors by releasing specs and/or open drivers.

Re: Intel says Clover Trail will not work with Linux

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Couple of ways to take this: 1) Microsoft has exerted leverage over Intel and got them to go down the preferred supplier route. Possible, and not overly surprising. 2) Intel is trying to carve a niche out and thinks its best bet is with the old hound. 3) The boring technical reason that there's loads of implementation and they can't be bothered making the changes to the Linux packages. It sounds like it'll run but wi…

Option 3. It's probably not that they can't but more that they won't because they aren't going to make any cash out of it with Linux. It's also because they are scared of ARM getting a head start on Win8 tablets. If they do this with a Core 2 and an IGP, then I'll start worrying.

No cash with Linux? Seriously?

Why does the idea that Linux is incompatible with profit still persevere? It's especially ridiculous considering the rise of Android.

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