Article is misleading, an iPhone 4s is also unble to be used on both GSM and CDMA because of firmware.
iPhone 4s is unable to be used on both GSM and CDMA networks because of the carriers unwillingness to let 'foreign' devices onto their network.
Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models
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#22"LTE fragmentation means that AT&T customers using an iPhone 5 in Europe, for example, won’t be able to take advantage of LTE speeds while abroad and will instead get kicked down to the 3G network."
How spoiled are people that they can carry a thing in their pocket that will let them access all the world's information, from a large portion of the world, and call it "crippled" because it's slower in some places?
That's just the HN title though. The article is a pretty good breakdown of what you get from each version of the phone, and doesn't use the word "crippled" anywhere. Nor does it editorialize much at all.
Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models
#23iPhone 5: The biggest thing to ever happen to iPhone since iPhone. No, the biggest thing would have been stuff like swappable RF modules so I can keep the computer portion of the phone and get the RF module my carrier requires. The biggest thing would have been support for external memory cards (microSD would have been great). The biggest thing would have been ditching the 30 pin connector for a mini/micro USB connec…
I'm a pretty big fan of my iPhone, but I would never think of shelling out the extra dough required to do an early upgrade. For people like me, the market for the iPhone 5 is not for someone who already owns an iPhone 4S, but rather for someone who owns an iPhone 4.
As an upgrade to the iPhone 4, the iPhone 5 looks pretty sweet. At this point, I don't really need any extra features, other than improved specs, which are always nice, and I don't need any of the things that you seem to want. Personally, I think that this feature race with Android is harmful. I'd actually prefer an iPhone that went back to the iPhone basics: a phone that is as small, light, and thin as possible, has a very long battery life, has zero lag for any typical use, and is utterly reliable and stable.
In my mind, the feature race with Android has been in a number of regards detrimental to the iPhone. Although the iPhone fares much better in terms of stability than the Android phones my friends have bought, all the extra features have come with a bit of a decrease in battery life and in responsiveness.
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#24Article is misleading, an iPhone 4s is also unble to be used on both GSM and CDMA because of firmware.
My verizon iphone 4s works CDMA on verizon, and GSM everywhere outside the US (you can ask verizon to unlock it for use outside the us 60 days into your contract. you should, if you haven't yet)
Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models
#25iPhone 5: The biggest thing to ever happen to iPhone since iPhone. No, the biggest thing would have been stuff like swappable RF modules so I can keep the computer portion of the phone and get the RF module my carrier requires. The biggest thing would have been support for external memory cards (microSD would have been great). The biggest thing would have been ditching the 30 pin connector for a mini/micro USB connec…
Historically, the answer will be yes. Apple launches a new model ever year the conversion rates from last years model holders to the new model are really high. This is even higher then conversions from consumers who bought two models ago to the new model. It's ridiculous (not that I think it is dumb, just that they have a consumer base/behavior like that). Additionally, I don't know if the general population would be…
I think what he wants is a handheld general purpose computer. That's not an unreasonable thing to want given what's possible these days. There is a general purpose computer inside the iPhone and it's running a decent UNIX-like OS. But Apple has crippled it. Sure you can use a computer as phone or a camera. You can also use it for other things.
So-called average consumers will never want a handheld general purpose computer, unless advertising tells them to want it. They will only want what advertising tells them to want.
This does not mean that no one should want a handheld general purpose computer. Nor does it mean the average consumer could not benefit from one, if they were shown how to use it. I am perplexed by those who would argue against anyone who asks for a more than what Apple is giving; some people want more than just a phone/camera. Are we all supposed to play dumb like this is not possible or not worthwhile to produce?
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#26"LTE fragmentation means that AT&T customers using an iPhone 5 in Europe, for example, won’t be able to take advantage of LTE speeds while abroad and will instead get kicked down to the 3G network." How spoiled are people that they can carry a thing in their pocket that will let them access all the world's information, from a large portion of the world, and call it "crippled" because it's slower in some places? That'…
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#27iPhone 5: The biggest thing to ever happen to iPhone since iPhone. No, the biggest thing would have been stuff like swappable RF modules so I can keep the computer portion of the phone and get the RF module my carrier requires. The biggest thing would have been support for external memory cards (microSD would have been great). The biggest thing would have been ditching the 30 pin connector for a mini/micro USB connec…
No one who bought a 4S since launch day is eligible for an upgrade on most plans at this point. They are not the target market. It's the 3GS/4 owners. They are in for a huge upgrade going to the iPhone 5.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Historically, the answer will be yes. Apple launches a new model ever year the conversion rates from last years model holders to the new model are really high. This is even higher then conversions from consumers who bought two models ago to the new model. It's ridiculous (not that I think it is dumb, just that they have a consumer base/behavior like that). Additionally, I don't know if the general population would be…
I think what he wants is a handheld general purpose computer. That's not an unreasonable thing to want given what's possible these days. There is a general purpose computer inside the iPhone and it's running a decent UNIX-like OS. But Apple has crippled it. Sure you can use a computer as phone or a camera. You can also use it for other things. So-called average consumers will never want a handheld general purpose com…
> I am perplexed by those who would argue against anyone who asks for a more than what Apple is giving
I am perplexed by people who criticize a great product because it is not the particular great product that they want. Other companies can and do make those products. Support the products that you like, rather than trying to tear down the ones that don't match your personal preferences.
> They will only want what advertising tells them to want.
Utter nonsense.
Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models
#29Article is misleading, an iPhone 4s is also unble to be used on both GSM and CDMA because of firmware.
My verizon iphone 4s works CDMA on verizon, and GSM everywhere outside the US (you can ask verizon to unlock it for use outside the us 60 days into your contract. you should, if you haven't yet)
Can you please share the documentation of that?
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
My verizon iphone 4s works CDMA on verizon, and GSM everywhere outside the US (you can ask verizon to unlock it for use outside the us 60 days into your contract. you should, if you haven't yet)
Can you please share the documentation of that?
First, you have to be in good payment standing on your plan, and a customer for at least 60 days. Assuming that's already the case:
Call them up on 611, and say you're going to go abroad soon, and you would like to unlock your phone for non-US use. They will ask you to confirm a bunch of things, some sillier than others (That you know this does NOT give you a way out of your contract; that you may NOT use the phone to do anything that's illegal in the US, wherever you do it; I don't remember the whole thing). Then they say they're processing it, and will tell you that in a couple of hours, you should either log in to the itunes store on the phone, or do a sync with itunes to receive the new profile. After you do that, you restart your phone, and it will accept non-US sim cards.
Things might have changed about the process since I've done it; I heard from some people that they had to log in to itunes with the new sim inside in order for it to be approved. The verizon person will guide you through the current requirements.