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Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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Yeah. No matter what, you're screwed this time around. Verizon's version doesn't support simultaneous data and calling. PITA.

AT&T doesn't support LTE when roaming except in Canada. PITA.

International GSM versions can't get AT&T LTE in the US. PITA.

The only plus side to anything is that if you switch to Verizon you can use some international LTE and get an international unlock after 60 days. However, in my case, switching to Verizon just for international LTE support is frivilous since I'd be paying more for less data on a Data Share plan versus keeping my "unlimited" plan + other grandfathered options.

TL;DR — everyone is getting fucked by the iPhone 5 if you plan on using it in a different country at some point, or like simultaneous calling and data.

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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So the iPhone 5 on AT&T can't use LTE outside of the US because AT&T uses some LTE band nobody else uses. Bit of a bummer, but I wouldn't call it crippled since you can still use 3G voice and data pretty much anywhere in the world. International roaming is actually one of AT&T's few strengths. I'd be more upset if International data wasn't so expensive. At $300 / GB, turning LTE on overseas would just scare me. Hopefully they'll come out with a unified chipset in the future and prices for international data will go down.

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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post #2

Yeah. No matter what, you're screwed this time around. Verizon's version doesn't support simultaneous data and calling. PITA. AT&T doesn't support LTE when roaming except in Canada. PITA. International GSM versions can't get AT&T LTE in the US. PITA. The only plus side to anything is that if you switch to Verizon you can use some international LTE and get an international unlock after 60 days. However, in my case, sw…

According to http://mgalligan.com/post/31415410863/buying-an-iphone-5-don... simultaneous voice & data is possible on Verizon's network, but only with LTE.

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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post #4
post #2

Yeah. No matter what, you're screwed this time around. Verizon's version doesn't support simultaneous data and calling. PITA. AT&T doesn't support LTE when roaming except in Canada. PITA. International GSM versions can't get AT&T LTE in the US. PITA. The only plus side to anything is that if you switch to Verizon you can use some international LTE and get an international unlock after 60 days. However, in my case, sw…

According to http://mgalligan.com/post/31415410863/buying-an-iphone-5-don... simultaneous voice & data is possible on Verizon's network, but only with LTE.

Yea I'm pretty sure with LTE that's possible. It's definitely not with 3G or below though.

But overall, I've never been happy with any smartphone. I pay $80/month for unlimited data, 350 minutes, unlimited texts.

After time, it always slows down, becomes buggy, bluetooth link cuts out, or the entire phone crashes. I don't know if it's designed to do this or it happens through the process of apps being updated and the phone becoming obsolete. This could probably be tested... if a phone was never updated, ever but that could probably lead to some security/privacy issues due to app bugs, os bugs, etc. Just seems like $80 is a lot to have this thing constantly bug up.

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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post #4
post #2

Yeah. No matter what, you're screwed this time around. Verizon's version doesn't support simultaneous data and calling. PITA. AT&T doesn't support LTE when roaming except in Canada. PITA. International GSM versions can't get AT&T LTE in the US. PITA. The only plus side to anything is that if you switch to Verizon you can use some international LTE and get an international unlock after 60 days. However, in my case, sw…

According to http://mgalligan.com/post/31415410863/buying-an-iphone-5-don... simultaneous voice & data is possible on Verizon's network, but only with LTE.

Because the iPhone 5 doesn't have an extra antenna, it won't support simultaneous voice and data: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/13/verizon-iphone-5-will-no...

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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post #3

So the iPhone 5 on AT&T can't use LTE outside of the US because AT&T uses some LTE band nobody else uses. Bit of a bummer, but I wouldn't call it crippled since you can still use 3G voice and data pretty much anywhere in the world. International roaming is actually one of AT&T's few strengths. I'd be more upset if International data wasn't so expensive. At $300 / GB, turning LTE on overseas would just scare me. Hopef…

I won't call it crippled either. You can make a call with it. Can't you?

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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Minor point: not too many people switch mid year but for those that want to, instead of giving up and staying locked with one carrier you can...

Break your plan early, switch carriers, and ebay the old phone. Assuming good condition you'll be out $100 max but you'll also have a brand new phone and warranty.

Re: Why Apple Made Three iPhone 5 Models

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post #7
post #3

So the iPhone 5 on AT&T can't use LTE outside of the US because AT&T uses some LTE band nobody else uses. Bit of a bummer, but I wouldn't call it crippled since you can still use 3G voice and data pretty much anywhere in the world. International roaming is actually one of AT&T's few strengths. I'd be more upset if International data wasn't so expensive. At $300 / GB, turning LTE on overseas would just scare me. Hopef…

I won't call it crippled either. You can make a call with it. Can't you?

As someone who is going to be using AT&Ts network, I'd rather have an iPhone that works here than an iPhone that works in Europe.

Also, I'm curious. Why is the iPhone, with three models, crippled, but the galaxy s3, with nine models, not crippled?

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