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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by elithrar »

eridius wrote: post #171
jarek wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another alternative is buying robust phones! My Nexus One has met the pavement with some assistance from gravity and my clumsy hands a couple of times and the casing has a couple of scratches to show for it. Screen as new. Then there was the Blackberry Pearl I threw down a couple of times as a demonstration...

You're comparing apples and oranges. My iPhone has fallen onto pavement a few times as well with only minor dings. sillysaurus's wife's phone fell off a countertop, which probably indicates it was in a kitchen, which usually has tile floors. Tile floors are far more likely to result in a smashed device than any other type of floor, including concrete, so it's not surprising that there's a difference here.

> Tile floors are far more likely to result in a smashed device than any other type of floor, including concrete, so it's not surprising that there's a difference here.

My theory is that a counter-top or kitchen floor is more likely to have debris on it, generating a pressure point on the glass and causing it to crack.

I've dropped my 4S on flat surfaces (bricks, concrete) with no real issues. I dropped my old 4 two weeks in on the pavement, on a tiny rock, and the back shattered (Apple fixed it for free; otherwise it was AUD$39).

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by burgreblast »

ollysb wrote: post #3
raldi wrote: post #2

It seems like the people who say the "new" one is thinner, lighter, more elegant, etc, all have cases on their phones. So in essence, the case sets your phone back a generation or two.

I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

Kahneman anyone? 200+ replies answering and debating an easier question than what the OP posed.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by brk »

elithrar wrote: post #231
eridius wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing apples and oranges. My iPhone has fallen onto pavement a few times as well with only minor dings. sillysaurus's wife's phone fell off a countertop, which probably indicates it was in a kitchen, which usually has tile floors. Tile floors are far more likely to result in a smashed device than any other type of floor, including concrete, so it's not surprising that there's a difference here.

> Tile floors are far more likely to result in a smashed device than any other type of floor, including concrete, so it's not surprising that there's a difference here. My theory is that a counter-top or kitchen floor is more likely to have debris on it, generating a pressure point on the glass and causing it to crack. I've dropped my 4S on flat surfaces (bricks, concrete) with no real issues. I dropped my old 4 two…

I'm pretty sure my kitchen floor has FAR less debris on it than the average outdoor concrete patch.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by samstave »

raldi wrote: post #2

It seems like the people who say the "new" one is thinner, lighter, more elegant, etc, all have cases on their phones. So in essence, the case sets your phone back a generation or two.

I'm on my lifetime 16th iPhone. (between all the versions) - my current 4S is the longest ive had one without dropping it and it breaking.

I've always hated cases, and this is one of the reasons I have broken so many.

Personally though, the thing I really hate is the iPhones lack of a notch to attach a lanyard without a case.

I've even email Jonathan Ive about this directly, though he's not cool like Steve and actually replies.

This is the most infuriating design aspect about the phone - given it's fragility, the lack of this really pisses me off.

I'd love to tell Apple execs off about this personally as it makes me so farking mad that if I choose to be caseless I am guaranteed a broken phone.

Fark that. People tried to tell me it was a design aesthetic choice that Ive made in the phone, and for that I say fuck him for this one small change would have saved me so many phones.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by lostsock »

bduerst wrote: post #95
[deleted] wrote: post #92

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I can't imagine how poorly that OS runs. I switched to an Android phone from iPhone 3G because the OS update made everything run so slowly.

Same, now my iPhone 3G sits in a draw as it is nigh on unusable.

Never understood the claim that iPhones get all the latest features where as Androids don't. Not only was the iOS 4 upgrade brick worthy, it was the last upgrade that iPhone 3G's were able to receive.

My 2 year old Desire HD is running the latest OS (JB) and it still performs like a champ!

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by olivier1664 »

jere wrote: post #135

What if these people are nervously scrambling to make a comment so they don't look stupid on camera? Of course, they all ended up looking stupid, but if you genuinely believed you were getting something new you would probably feel pressured to feign being impressed. Besides, I'd wager that they excluded one or more interviewees who said "I can't tell a difference." Of course, it's perfectly fine for a laugh.

Agree with you: it was same effect than with "Americans are NOT stupid" video where we see lot of cut scenes where people say wrong answer (as "4 sides on a triangle"). That let thing people says only stupid things, while in fact they are just not perfect.

For french readers, here an old link on the subject: http://plombe.over-blog.com/article-24222182.html

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by [deleted] »

jere wrote: post #135

What if these people are nervously scrambling to make a comment so they don't look stupid on camera? Of course, they all ended up looking stupid, but if you genuinely believed you were getting something new you would probably feel pressured to feign being impressed. Besides, I'd wager that they excluded one or more interviewees who said "I can't tell a difference." Of course, it's perfectly fine for a laugh.

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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by dhughes »

jarek wrote: post #164
sillysaurus wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife's phone fell off a countertop, resulting in a completely smashed screen. (Basically a dense spiderweb of cracks covering the entire screen.) She wasn't using a case at the time, otherwise there's a good chance that wouldn't have happened. However, it was fairly cheap to replace the screen (~$50) so maybe there's still no point in getting a case.

Another alternative is buying robust phones! My Nexus One has met the pavement with some assistance from gravity and my clumsy hands a couple of times and the casing has a couple of scratches to show for it. Screen as new. Then there was the Blackberry Pearl I threw down a couple of times as a demonstration...

I was tying my shoelace and my Nexus One fell out of my shirt pocket and fell about 16 inches onto carpet, yes carpet. Ruined.

I found out later from HTC the screen was cracked neatly all down the right-hand side http://imgur.com/a/QmqHx But I couldn't see any crack when the bezel was on the only way to see it was when HTC disassembled it.

It was a month long battle with HTC before I agreed to $150 and told them I was never buying an HTC product again, ever. They didn't even repair it well, insulation sticking out of the bezel, screen calibration off.

Every phone I have owned since 1997 I have dropped it's impossible to say you won't ever drop your cellphone. Any phone company that sells a cellphone that breaks so easily when dropped, especially 16 inches onto carpet, should not be in the business of selling cellphones.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by Evbn »

jarek wrote: post #164
sillysaurus wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife's phone fell off a countertop, resulting in a completely smashed screen. (Basically a dense spiderweb of cracks covering the entire screen.) She wasn't using a case at the time, otherwise there's a good chance that wouldn't have happened. However, it was fairly cheap to replace the screen (~$50) so maybe there's still no point in getting a case.

Another alternative is buying robust phones! My Nexus One has met the pavement with some assistance from gravity and my clumsy hands a couple of times and the casing has a couple of scratches to show for it. Screen as new. Then there was the Blackberry Pearl I threw down a couple of times as a demonstration...

My N1 was a week old when I dropped it and broke a chip out of the screen (before I cased it). Also, at two years old the USB port broke off.

My phone does feel amazingly this when I take the case off, though.

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