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Re: Depression lies

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Post by makmanalp »

chris_wot wrote: post #220
makmanalp wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, look. Please go and talk to your loved and trusted ones about this, and go see a pro. Simply that is progress, and it is the kind that'll keep turning into more progress. Just make a few phone calls and get yourself into that office. Don't fret about choosing the right doctor etc. It's like startups: release your MVP as fast as you can, and then tweak it later iteratively.

Thanks :-) I went to see a doctor a few days ago, they gave me some medication that literally took me out all night and all day. Won't be taking it ever again, but it helped stop the thoughts. Only a temporary solution, I'll be getting some help! Thanks for your concern - it actually does mean something to read your comment :-)

No problem! I don't know much about this but it appears that usually there is a trial period where people have to go through trying several different medications till they find the right one.

Meanwhile, try reading this: http://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-The-Mood-Therapy/dp/03808... I haven't really read it but I've been exposed to the CBT methodology that it's based on (see my other comments on this thread) and it works.

Get help soon, and good luck! :)

Re: Depression lies

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Post by jtheory »

Alex3917 wrote: post #143
locopati wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand where your last paragraph of bile is coming from. There's been no name calling here that I can see.

Read the section of text that I quoted. Someone who said something that's fundamentally correct is being criticized by a variety of other people who are too lazy to actually do the research themselves. That's the very premise of the movie Idiocracy.

Your language is noticeably nastier than anything you're responding to, here and in another comment below.

Of course you can disagree with, or be upset by other comments, but dialing up the language significantly doesn't do anything useful.

Re: Depression lies

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Post by Alex3917 »

jtheory wrote: post #222
Alex3917 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the section of text that I quoted. Someone who said something that's fundamentally correct is being criticized by a variety of other people who are too lazy to actually do the research themselves. That's the very premise of the movie Idiocracy.

Your language is noticeably nastier than anything you're responding to, here and in another comment below. Of course you can disagree with, or be upset by other comments, but dialing up the language significantly doesn't do anything useful.

"Of course you can disagree with, or be upset by other comments, but dialing up the language significantly doesn't do anything useful."

While I respect your opinion, personally I think it's much better to have a community where people are occasionally assholes than to have a community where people are giving false and dangerous health advice.

Re: Depression lies

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Post by lotharbot »

chris_wot wrote: post #220
makmanalp wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, look. Please go and talk to your loved and trusted ones about this, and go see a pro. Simply that is progress, and it is the kind that'll keep turning into more progress. Just make a few phone calls and get yourself into that office. Don't fret about choosing the right doctor etc. It's like startups: release your MVP as fast as you can, and then tweak it later iteratively.

Thanks :-) I went to see a doctor a few days ago, they gave me some medication that literally took me out all night and all day. Won't be taking it ever again, but it helped stop the thoughts. Only a temporary solution, I'll be getting some help! Thanks for your concern - it actually does mean something to read your comment :-)

The brain is a complex system, and depression is a complex phenomenon. Sometimes it takes a few tries to find medication that works right for you, or to find the form of expression that works right for you, or ... whatever. Keep trying; let the doctors know how things are working every step of the way.

And definitely keep your wife informed. When my wife went through something similar, it was a big deal just to know what was going on and be able to give feedback.

Re: Depression lies

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Post by [deleted] »

chris_wot wrote: post #220
makmanalp wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, look. Please go and talk to your loved and trusted ones about this, and go see a pro. Simply that is progress, and it is the kind that'll keep turning into more progress. Just make a few phone calls and get yourself into that office. Don't fret about choosing the right doctor etc. It's like startups: release your MVP as fast as you can, and then tweak it later iteratively.

Thanks :-) I went to see a doctor a few days ago, they gave me some medication that literally took me out all night and all day. Won't be taking it ever again, but it helped stop the thoughts. Only a temporary solution, I'll be getting some help! Thanks for your concern - it actually does mean something to read your comment :-)

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Re: Depression lies

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Post by DenisM »

jawr wrote: post #55

Has anyone ever explored the idea that depression is a western disease?

Lab mice can get depressed as well - there is specific way by which it gets achieved, so it's not even a human-only problem.

Re: Depression lies

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Post by DenisM »

throwaway120912 wrote: post #43

Forgive the disposable account, I am a long-time registered user with high karma but even I think that once in a while there is a topic that requires anonymity (or at least further pseudonymity). I do not feel I suffer from depression, yet I think of suicide frequently. Frequently as in, once every couple of days to several times a day, for as long as I remember. Frequently these are just passing thoughts, of how I m…

Let me suggest you a Jedi mind trick which just may work out for you:

Imagine a situation where you could fork() the curent universe and run two different copies of the world in parallel on two different CPUs. Now you can make a certain choice in one copy, and an opposite choice in another copy, and then let the events run their course and see which one was the better choice. Wouldn't that be nice? You could then see the unpredictable consequences of your choices, and there are always some of those. Sadly, we only have one CPU to run the world, and there is no place for context-switching. But! Turns out there is one situation where you can do just that - if the choice is suicide (yes/no), you can pretend that you have taken that choice and killed yourself; so now you know the outcome of that choice, and the CPU is free to run the other fork() of the world. Since you already know what's down the first path, might as well go look through the second one.

Re: Depression lies

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway120912 wrote: post #43

Forgive the disposable account, I am a long-time registered user with high karma but even I think that once in a while there is a topic that requires anonymity (or at least further pseudonymity). I do not feel I suffer from depression, yet I think of suicide frequently. Frequently as in, once every couple of days to several times a day, for as long as I remember. Frequently these are just passing thoughts, of how I m…

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Re: Depression lies

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Post by lotharbot »

Alex3917 wrote: post #223
jtheory wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your language is noticeably nastier than anything you're responding to, here and in another comment below. Of course you can disagree with, or be upset by other comments, but dialing up the language significantly doesn't do anything useful.

"Of course you can disagree with, or be upset by other comments, but dialing up the language significantly doesn't do anything useful." While I respect your opinion, personally I think it's much better to have a community where people are occasionally assholes than to have a community where people are giving false and dangerous health advice.

> "it's much better to have a community where people are occasionally assholes"

The guidelines [0] disagree with you. "Be civil" is followed by a period, not by a list of exceptions for when it's OK to be an asshole. Likewise, "please respond to the argument instead of calling names" is followed by an example, not by exceptions.

When people give wrong advice, counter it, but do so without the name-calling.

[0] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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