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Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by semidror »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #9
semidror wrote: post #6

With the introduction of ProRes RAW and Genlock, it seems like iPhones can finally be seriously considered for professional movie capture.

28 years later was filmed using the iPhone 15 as the sensor/capture device.

IIRC, iPhones (and every other smartphone) records variable frame rate videos (VFR), whereas professional cameras can record constant frame rate videos (CFR).

I think that VFR videos need to be re-encoded into CFR videos in order to be able to work with all the footage shot by different devices. It sounds to me like with the Genlock feature, it could actually be possible to record CFR videos on an iPhone and also synchronize the iPhone with other devices so that both video and audio does not drift relative to other devices. But that's just my speculation as I couldn't find any details about the Genlock feature.

I would love to know how the team working on 28 years later handled synchronization of the multiple iPhones they were using to shoot some scenes of the movie and if they got a helping hand from Apple, which perhaps allowed them to use some internal APIs to access hidden features of the camera stack...

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by kemayo »

elAhmo wrote: post #3

I thought of upgrading my 3 year old pro, but seeing this there is no reason to. Apple Intelligence is nowhere to be found, extra camera is nice but this design... Oh my god, I know this is subjective, but this is really ugly.

Subjective indeed. I don't mind the broad camera bump -- it's a good trade-off for getting the increased zoom, honestly. I'm not quite sure how I feel about the differently-colored ceramic bit on the back, though. But, on the plus side, not like that's the bit of the phone I look at.

Plus, the orange looks great. (In their promo shots. We've occasionally seen these look a lot less vivid once you see them in real life.)

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by CharlesW »

Schiendelman wrote: post #12
PUSH_AX wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

28 years later was filmed using the iPhone 15 as the sensor/capture device.

Only a few scenes were filmed with iphones.

The focus was naturally scenes and "vibes" that couldn't be achieved with traditional films cameras. Boyle and Mantle weren't afraid to use whatever was best for the job, which included drones and other camera systems as well. More on their iPhone camera rigs for anyone who's interested:

https://www.ign.com/articles/28-years-later-danny-boyle-goes...

https://www.motionpictures.org/2025/06/how-28-years-later-dp...

https://www.wired.com/story/danny-boyle-says-shooting-on-iph...

Related: Driver POV footage for F1 was shot with Apple-created custom iPhone rigs as well.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by kemayo »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

With the iPhone 17 Air, which has many of the Pro features that typically accompany the Pro model to differentiate it from the base model, in addition to the base model getting the marquee features of the Pro models such as the 120Hz/Always On Display, the Pro is very poorly differentiated unless you really make use of the three cameras. And there's no black color.

I'm one of those people who really likes the camera features, so there's no question about which one interests me. The Pro also has a battery life estimate that's 45% longer than the Air's, which is pretty important to me. Those two things combine to be a pretty big differentiator.

EDIT: actually, base Pro is only 22% more battery life. I was accidentally comparing it to the Pro Max. Still, important.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by mns »

cpuguy83 wrote: post #15
minimaxir wrote: post #2

With the iPhone 17 Air, which has many of the Pro features that typically accompany the Pro model to differentiate it from the base model, in addition to the base model getting the marquee features of the Pro models such as the 120Hz/Always On Display, the Pro is very poorly differentiated unless you really make use of the three cameras. And there's no black color.

I guess this time the pro really is for pros. The 120hz on the base model is great.

It’s a phone, who or what are those pros that use this in a pro way? And I’m saying this as a pro owner who only got it for the camera, which I use to take casual photos

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by browningstreet »

johncalvinyoung wrote: post #11

The lack of a black iPhone 17 Pro... has me dumbfounded. I might skip this year. I'm really happy with the camera features, but there's less differentiation between base iPhone 17 and 17 Pro this go-round. Probably enough for me to still get the Pro, but the iPhone 17 is looking like a pretty cool option this year.

I had to pull my case off to see what color iPhone I had... I'll never buy a white iPhone ever again but anything silver or dark is good with me.
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