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Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#71

Each new model has an asymptotically smaller feature bump. In 10 years we may have converged on the complete cell phone. Maybe the recent introduction of foldable phones indicates the opposite. Is it the final blip, or will something similarly disruptive happen every 5-7 years? Discuss.

The number of models increase, the number of noticeable features decrease. All marketing, no vision.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Once again disappointed that we’re getting screwed over by “bill credit” carrier offers for 36 months and wish that US carriers would stop that crap.

The 2 year contracts from the 2000s and early 2010s are back with a vengeance.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the concern here? Can the phone not just be bought outright?

If I trade in my phone, I want my trade-in offer now . Instead, the full value of whatever trade-in deal provided is split over 36 months as bill credits. While the new phone might actually be “free” in one of these promotions, it’s not, naturally, because you’ve been thrown into a 36 month installment agreement separate of the cellphone service they’ve sold you on (that they also claim is “price locked” while indepe…

Sell your phone, never trade it in. That's the surest way to lose money.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#75

I really like the new unibody design on the 17 Pro, as well as the orange. That seems like the first iPhone might feel like bypassing the case. However, seeing as I just got a 16 Pro last year, I don't think I can justify an upgrade just yet. Overall this year seemed much better than last year.

The glass screen is why you want a case not the frame.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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I'd be curious to understand their rationale for not making a small, reasonably priced phone like the iPhone SE used to be. I probably will be leaving the iPhone ecosystem the next time I have to buy a smartphone (even though I use a Mac, iPad, and Airpods, which all work together really well) because I'm uninterested in using a large phone. Thinking through my own use case, I just use my phone for messaging, maps, a…

One reason might be that they have a minimum duration of software support—a low powered device might hold back future software?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These have never been actual pro devices. Arguably not even prosumer. You probably don’t want scorched earth ai processing done on your photos as a pro but that is what the iPhones have been doing as of late. Most damning is no way to turn that off.

There is no such thing as a digital camera without processing. But third party camera apps can get images as raw as they want them and it supports professional video standards. Try Halide with "Process Zero" if you want that, but I'm pretty sure the most popular 3p camera apps are Asian beauty apps that do far more and far worse quality processing.

Sure there is. Shoot in Raw format. Get a file representing a matrix of the sensor readout for each rgb pixel. Your post processing software of choice handles interpolation to the method of your choice.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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I really like the new unibody design on the 17 Pro, as well as the orange. That seems like the first iPhone might feel like bypassing the case. However, seeing as I just got a 16 Pro last year, I don't think I can justify an upgrade just yet. Overall this year seemed much better than last year.

The AT&T carrier deals this year are wild. It seems like they’ll just throw a new phone at you for free as long as you agree to stay for 3 years.

Beyond the price of their services, they're probably thinking of all the data they can collect and sell in that time.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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post #32

I'd be curious to understand their rationale for not making a small, reasonably priced phone like the iPhone SE used to be. I probably will be leaving the iPhone ecosystem the next time I have to buy a smartphone (even though I use a Mac, iPad, and Airpods, which all work together really well) because I'm uninterested in using a large phone. Thinking through my own use case, I just use my phone for messaging, maps, a…

Phones are used to consume content. Bigger screens make consuming content better. Therefore smaller screens do not sell well. The sales back up my statements. Yes I romanticize about an iPhone 17 mini pro but in the end I like being able to watch some downloaded content on a plane without having to bring an iPad from time to time and I'm not going to do that on a tiny screen.

hear me out: a low powered, larger screened iphone!
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