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Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by mh- »

probably_wrong wrote: post #108
tofuahdude wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic literally stated yesterday that they suffered degraded model performance over the last month due to bugs: https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c Suggesting people are "out of their mind" is not really appropriate on this forum, especially so in this circumstance.

The first comment claims that Anthropic "are having to quantise the models to keep up with demand", to which the parent comment agrees with "This can't be understated". So based on this discussion so far Anthropic has [1] great models, [2] models that used to be great but now aren't due to quantization, [3] models that used to be great but now aren't due to a bug, and [4] models that constantly feel like a "bait and…

The part I was saying I agree with is:

> New features like this feel pointless when the underlying model is becoming unusable.

I recognize I could have been clearer.

And for what it's worth, yes, your comment's phrasing didn't bother me at all.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by wolfgangbabad »

My experience is similar. At first Claude was super smart and get even very complicated things right. Now even super simple tasks are almost impossible to finish right, even if I really chop things into small steps. Also it's much slower even on Pro account than a few weeks ago.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by trunnell »

mh- wrote: post #129
trunnell wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c They recently resolved two bugs affecting model quality, one of which was in production Aug 5-Sep 4. They also wrote: Importantly, we never intentionally degrade model quality as a result of demand or other factors, and the issues mentioned above stem from unrelated bugs. Sibling comments are claiming the opposite, attributing malice where the company itself says it…

The problem is twofold: - They're reporting that only impacted Haiku 3.5 and Sonnet 4. I used neither model during the time period I'm concerned with. - It took them a month to publicly acknowledge that issue, so now we lack confidence there isn't another underlying issue going undetected (or undisclosed, less charitably) that affects Opus.

now we lack confidence there isn't another underlying issue

You can be confident there is a non-zero rate of errors and defects in any complex service that's moving as fast as the frontier model providers!

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

#135

Post by qaq »

probably_wrong wrote: post #108
tofuahdude wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic literally stated yesterday that they suffered degraded model performance over the last month due to bugs: https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c Suggesting people are "out of their mind" is not really appropriate on this forum, especially so in this circumstance.

The first comment claims that Anthropic "are having to quantise the models to keep up with demand", to which the parent comment agrees with "This can't be understated". So based on this discussion so far Anthropic has [1] great models, [2] models that used to be great but now aren't due to quantization, [3] models that used to be great but now aren't due to a bug, and [4] models that constantly feel like a "bait and…

I am not sure why you are loosing your mind Anthropic dynamically adjusts knobs based on capacity and load Those knobs can be as simple as reducing usage limits to more advanced like switching to more optimized paths that have anything from more aggressive caching to using more optimized models etc. Bugs are a factor in quality of any service.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by mh- »

trunnell wrote: post #133
mh- wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is twofold: - They're reporting that only impacted Haiku 3.5 and Sonnet 4. I used neither model during the time period I'm concerned with. - It took them a month to publicly acknowledge that issue, so now we lack confidence there isn't another underlying issue going undetected (or undisclosed, less charitably) that affects Opus.

now we lack confidence there isn't another underlying issue You can be confident there is a non-zero rate of errors and defects in any complex service that's moving as fast as the frontier model providers!

Of course. Totally agree, and that's why (I think) I'm being as charitable as possible in this thread.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by amelius »

ffsm8 wrote: post #130
amelius wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd probably install a snapshotting filesystem before I let it change stuff on my system (such as installing packages and such).

That's what devcontainers are for. You create the config and the editor runs effectively inside of the docker container. Works surprisingly good. Vscode for example even Auto proxies opened ports inside of the container to the host etc. Will also make using Linux tooling a lot easier on non- Linux hosts like Windows/MacOS

It's nice in theory.

In practice, they require a lot of sysadmin-related work, and installing all the software inside them is no fun, even if using scripts, etc.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by claude_ya_ »

trunnell wrote: post #127
mh- wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can't be understated. I started using it heavily earlier this summer and it felt like magic. Someone signing up now based on how I described my personal experiences with it then would think I was out of my mind . For technical tasks it has been a net negative for me for the last several weeks. (Speaking of both Claude Code and the desktop app, both Sonnet and Opus >=4, on the Max plan.)

https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c They recently resolved two bugs affecting model quality, one of which was in production Aug 5-Sep 4. They also wrote: Importantly, we never intentionally degrade model quality as a result of demand or other factors, and the issues mentioned above stem from unrelated bugs. Sibling comments are claiming the opposite, attributing malice where the company itself says it…

Does anyone know if this also affected Claude Sonnet models running in AWS Bedrock, or if it was just when using the model via Anthropic’s API?

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by ffsm8 »

amelius wrote: post #137
ffsm8 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what devcontainers are for. You create the config and the editor runs effectively inside of the docker container. Works surprisingly good. Vscode for example even Auto proxies opened ports inside of the container to the host etc. Will also make using Linux tooling a lot easier on non- Linux hosts like Windows/MacOS

It's nice in theory. In practice, they require a lot of sysadmin-related work, and installing all the software inside them is no fun, even if using scripts, etc.

It's a one time time investment that most people already have partially and just needs to be transcribed (existing compose/dockerfile)

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by tkgally »

amilios wrote: post #123

Anyone else having serious reliability issues with artifact editing? I find that the artifacts quite often get "stuck", where the LLM is trying to edit the artifact but the state of the artifact does not change. Seems like the LLM is somehow failing in editing the artifact silently, while thinking that it is actually doing the edits. The way to resolve this is to ask Claude to make a new artifact, which then has all…

I have had the same problem with artifacts, and I had similar problems several months ago with Claude Desktop. I stopped using those features mostly and use Claude Code instead. I don't like CC's terminal interface, but it has been more reliable for me.
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