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Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by eatsyourtacos »

probably_wrong wrote: post #30
mh- wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can't be understated. I started using it heavily earlier this summer and it felt like magic. Someone signing up now based on how I described my personal experiences with it then would think I was out of my mind . For technical tasks it has been a net negative for me for the last several weeks. (Speaking of both Claude Code and the desktop app, both Sonnet and Opus >=4, on the Max plan.)

Have you considered perhaps that you are, indeed, out of your mind? Or more precisely, that you could be rationalizing what is essentially a random process? Based on the discussions here it seems that every model is either about to be great or was great in the past but now is not. Sucks for those of us who are stuck in the now , though.

>Or more precisely, that you could be rationalizing what is essentially a random process?

You mean like our human brains and our entire bodies? We are the result of random processes.

>Sucks for those of us who are stuck in the now, though

I don't know what you are doing- but GPT5 is incredible. I literally spent 3 hours last night going back and forth on a project where I loaded some files for a somewhat complicated and tedious conversion between two data formats. And I was able to keep going back and forth and making the improvements incrementally and have AI do 90% of the actual tedious work.

To me it's incredible people don't seem to understand the CURRENT value. It has literally replaced a junior developer for me. I am 100% better off working with AI for all these tedious tasks than passing them off to someone off. We can argue all day if that's good for the world (it's not) but in terms of the current state of AI- it's already incredible.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

#52

Post by brunooliv »

pmx wrote: post #3

They need to focus on fixing reliability first. Their systems constantly go down and it appears they are having to quantise the models to keep up with demand, reducing intelligence significantly. New features like this feel pointless when the underlying model is becoming unusable.

Agreed! It’s been horrible recently, feels like a completely different model under the hood. Before I could use it as a real sparring partner for architecture designs and decisions and I actually would learn in the process. Now it’s like it’s sycophancy is tuned to the max, it just agrees with me, does the bare minimum and produces code that doesn’t compile. For that I have the humans, ah!

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by cloudhead »

pmx wrote: post #3

They need to focus on fixing reliability first. Their systems constantly go down and it appears they are having to quantise the models to keep up with demand, reducing intelligence significantly. New features like this feel pointless when the underlying model is becoming unusable.

The web interface is also so laggy on Firefox I’ve started using other free offerings more despite paying for Claude..

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by spicybright »

mh- wrote: post #15
pqdbr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. Even with Opus in Claude Code I'm getting terrible results, sometimes feeling we went back to the GPT 3.5 eon. And it seems they are implementing heavily token-saving measures: the model does not read context anymore unless you force it to, making up method calls as it goes.

The simplest thing I frequently ask of regular Claude (not Code) in the desktop app: "Use your web search tool to find me the go-to component for doing xyz in $language $framework. Always link the GitHub repo in your response." Previously Sonnet 4 would return a good answer to this at least 80% of the time. Now even Opus 4.1 with extended thinking frequently ignores my ask for it to use the search tool, which allows…

Glad I'm not crazy. I actually noticed both 4 models are just garbage. I started running my prompts through those, and Sonnet 3.7 comparing the results. Sonnet 3.7 is way better at everything.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by simonw »

This feature is a little confusing.

It looks to me like a variant of the Code Interpreter pattern, where Claude has a (presumably sandboxed) server-side container environment in which it can run Python. When you ask it to make a spreadsheet it runs this:

  pip install openpyxl pandas --break-system-packages
And then generates and runs a Python script.

What's weird is that when you enable it in https://claude.ai/settings/features it automatically disables the old Analysis tool - which used JavaScript running in your browser. For some reason you can have one of those enabled but not both.

The new feature is being described exclusively as a system for creating files though! I'm trying to figure out if that gets used for code analysis too now, in place of the analysis tool.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

#56

Post by lordnacho »

This will either result in a lot of people being able to sleep more, or an absolute avalanche of crap is about to be released upon society.

A lot of the people I graduated with spent their 20s making powerpoint and excel. There would be people with a master's in engineering getting phone calls at 1am, with an instruction to change the fonts on slide 75, or to slightly modify some calculation. Most of the real decision making was, funnily enough, not based on these documents. But it still meant people were working 100 hour weeks.

I could see this resulting in the same work being done in a few minutes. But I could also see it resulting in the MDs asking for 10x the number of slide decks.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

#57

Post by tofuahdude »

probably_wrong wrote: post #30
mh- wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can't be understated. I started using it heavily earlier this summer and it felt like magic. Someone signing up now based on how I described my personal experiences with it then would think I was out of my mind . For technical tasks it has been a net negative for me for the last several weeks. (Speaking of both Claude Code and the desktop app, both Sonnet and Opus >=4, on the Max plan.)

Have you considered perhaps that you are, indeed, out of your mind? Or more precisely, that you could be rationalizing what is essentially a random process? Based on the discussions here it seems that every model is either about to be great or was great in the past but now is not. Sucks for those of us who are stuck in the now , though.

Anthropic literally stated yesterday that they suffered degraded model performance over the last month due to bugs:

https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c

Suggesting people are "out of their mind" is not really appropriate on this forum, especially so in this circumstance.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

#58

Post by kridsdale1 »

lordnacho wrote: post #56

This will either result in a lot of people being able to sleep more, or an absolute avalanche of crap is about to be released upon society. A lot of the people I graduated with spent their 20s making powerpoint and excel. There would be people with a master's in engineering getting phone calls at 1am, with an instruction to change the fonts on slide 75, or to slightly modify some calculation. Most of the real decisio…

Finance?

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by echelon »

kylebenzle wrote: post #10
p1esk wrote: post #6

One step closer to mass unemployment, yay!

That doesn't make any sense and isn't an appropriate comment for this discussion. The Anthropic product adding a feature is not the end of employment or even a step along the way. MOST PEOPLE can't even use an actual computer yet even think about programming. WYSIWYG editors didn't kill web development because most people are simply too stupid to understand a new tool, let alone use it.

How many people in the US drive cars vs. how many make them?

Rewind back to the 70s and ask the same question.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Post by ACCount37 »

mh- wrote: post #26
ACCount37 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic claims that they don't degrade models under load, and the performance issues were a result of a system error: https://status.anthropic.com/incidents/72f99lh1cj2c That being said, they still have capacity issues on any day of the week that ends in Y. No clue how long would that take to resolve.

Not nitpicking, but they said: > we never intentionally degrade model quality as a result of demand or other factors Fully giving them the benefit of the doubt, I still think that still allows for a scenario like "we may [switch to quantized models|tune parameters], but our internal testing showed that these interventions didn't materially affect end user experience". I hate to parse their words in this way, because…

"Anecdata" is notoriously unreliable when it comes to estimating AI performance over time.

Sure, people complain about Anthropic's AI models getting worse over time. As well as OpenAI's models getting worse over time. But guess what? If you serve them open weights models, they also complain about models getting worse over time. Same exact checkpoint, same exact settings, same exact hardware.

Relative LMArena metrics, however, are fairly consistent across time.

The takeaway is that users are not reliable LLM evaluators.

My hypothesis is that users have a "learning curve", and get better at spotting LLM mistakes over time - both overall and for a specific model checkpoint. Resulting in increasingly critical evaluations over time.

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