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Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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The stock on the other hand…

The Tesla stock evaluation has little to do with what Tesla is delivering today and a lot more with what investors imagine they will be able to do in the future. Based on their history I'm pretty optimistic that those expectations will not be met, but Tesla somehow still rises in value.

Because Elon pulls off certain manoeuvres that feeds right into his "just trust me bro" supporters.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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You can only cut costs so much before you're selling the equivalent of a $50k geo metro. When they removed the center horn and the stalks from their cars, they officially jumped the shark. But I bet they saved at least $50 per car from their costs. I still can't believe the NHTSA hasn't issued a recall.

Wait, how do you honk on a Tesla?

There’s a capacitive button on the newer steering wheels.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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The stock on the other hand…

The Tesla stock evaluation has little to do with what Tesla is delivering today and a lot more with what investors imagine they will be able to do in the future. Based on their history I'm pretty optimistic that those expectations will not be met, but Tesla somehow still rises in value.

Every time I think about shorting Tesla stock, I remember the adage:

The market can remain irrational much longer than you can remain solvent.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Yes. A lot of people, and obviously some "news" reporters, need to learn the difference between market share and stock price. And that as a market grows one company cannot maintain the same market share as competitors join in over time.

> as a market grows one company cannot maintain the same market share as competitors join in over time. Why not? Look at Apple's smartphone market share in the US. It's been fairly constant at 60% for the last 15 years.

I would say the smartphone market would be more stable in terms of market share by its nature. The only way that it would shift significantly is if there were a mass exodus of users from one platform to the other. But the vast majority of people are perfectly happy staying with whatever they have. Likewise, many new smartphone users who aren't locked into a platform yet get locked into whatever platform people around them are using.

In the vehicle market, there's a lot more competition space than just two or three brands. And just because someone is around, say, Ford drivers. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to go out and buy a Ford for themselves. Rather, they're going to buy whatever they find appealing.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Political issues aside, Tesla has a variety problem. If we converge the split between midrange and premium, their lineup consists of a midsize sedan, a midsize SUV, and a niche truck. Early on this was in their favor, but with more automakers entering the fray with serious attempts to compete, they’re going to have to add at least a couple more models to reman competitive: something in the vein of a Chevy Bolt on one…

Again, politics aside, I just find the lineup boring. Every model outside the Cybertruck looks like a ten year old car. Even the refresh of the model Y is still reskinning a design language started with the Model S, but with any interesting soul stripped out to reduce cost.

The nerd in me loves the technology, particularly behind the scenes features of the Cybertruck like 48v architecture. In the end I want to drive something that feels like it has a soul and substance. Teslas lineup right now is not that.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Political issues aside, Tesla has a variety problem. If we converge the split between midrange and premium, their lineup consists of a midsize sedan, a midsize SUV, and a niche truck. Early on this was in their favor, but with more automakers entering the fray with serious attempts to compete, they’re going to have to add at least a couple more models to reman competitive: something in the vein of a Chevy Bolt on one…

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Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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The stock on the other hand…

The Tesla stock evaluation has little to do with what Tesla is delivering today and a lot more with what investors imagine they will be able to do in the future. Based on their history I'm pretty optimistic that those expectations will not be met, but Tesla somehow still rises in value.

It's the original meme stock.
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