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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by enraged_camel » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:01 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #118

enraged_camel wrote: post #104

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Doesn't sound like a very good alternative. You're paying 10% of the cost of the phone to protect it against (some) accidents, but in the process set it back a generation, by making it thicker and heavier. That's pretty costly as far as insurance goes.

Only if you place a high priority on thickness. I personally don't, and am actually fairly annoyed that cell phone makers don't have the option to e.g. double the thickness of their phones in exchange for a 2-3x increase in battery life.

>>Only if you place a high priority on thickness.

Most people do. This is why smartphones have been getting thinner with each iteration.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by vvhn » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:01 PM UTC

__abc wrote: post #28

I imagine this can be done with almost all handsets, laptops, etc. I'm guessing this is more "human nature" than Apple Fanboy'sm at a large consumer scale.

Also this is a piece on a late night comedy show not some random sampling of people outside the sets of the Jimmy Kimmel show. Edited to make it funny as well (as they should btw).

I'm wondering how this is being extrapolated to mean "Nobody can tell the difference between iPhone 4/4S and 5".

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by mikeash » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:04 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #151

mikeash wrote: post #118

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Only if you place a high priority on thickness. I personally don't, and am actually fairly annoyed that cell phone makers don't have the option to e.g. double the thickness of their phones in exchange for a 2-3x increase in battery life.

>>Only if you place a high priority on thickness. Most people do. This is why smartphones have been getting thinner with each iteration.

Of course. My point is only that people don't all have the same priorities. If you strongly value thickness, a case is not a good choice. If you don't care, then a case is a good choice. Making a blanket declaration that a case is "pretty costly as far as insurance goes" regardless of personal preferences is stupid.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by Ensorceled » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:11 PM UTC

I'm not sure what is funnier, the clue less apple users who can't figure out this device is the same as the one in their pockets or the anti-apple rage bots in thenextweb comments.

It's like watching a parrot attack the parrot in the mirror.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by sray » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:13 PM UTC

owenjones wrote: post #130

ollysb wrote: post #3

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I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

I showed my sister my 4S recently, she was thinking of upgrading, and she was amazed at my lack of case. "How do you protect it from scratches?" she asked, to which I replied "I don't drop it." I can't really comprehend dropping this thing, it costs $4-500! That's a lot of money! I can't imagine not handling things that cost that much without the utmost of care.

I'm with you. Accidents happen, but most can be prevented if you just treat your expensive device with care and respect. I find that people really don't like that advice, though!

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by dabent » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:14 PM UTC

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

ollysb wrote: post #3

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I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

I don't have small children, but I also apparently don't have any motor skills. I spent the money on an OtterBox for my phone and it's saved me from a cracked screen at least a half dozen times and from minor damage much more often than that. The down side is that my phone looks twice as large, but it's well worth it.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by magoon » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:15 PM UTC

ollysb wrote: post #3

raldi wrote: post #2

It seems like the people who say the "new" one is thinner, lighter, more elegant, etc, all have cases on their phones. So in essence, the case sets your phone back a generation or two.

I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

I will sell my iPhone 4 for $200-300 to buy the new iPhone 5.

I can do this because I preserved it in mint condition.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by usefulcat » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:22 PM UTC

16s wrote: post #137

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

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It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

Your comment about your children's names reminded me of something I heard Bill Cosby say once. When he was a kid, he and his brother thought their names were "Dammit" and "Hellfire" until they were twelve years old. "Dammit, get in here! Hellfire, get out of that tree."

Actually it was Dammit and Jesus Christ.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by kalid » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:24 PM UTC

Alex3917 wrote: post #53

bornhuetter wrote: post #45

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> there's essentially zero difference between the 3GS and the iPhone 5. Are you kidding? I'm no iOS fan, but I think that statement is a bit ridiculous.

The battery life is almost exactly the same. All of the most popular apps still run on the 3GS, and run well, with the exception of a half dozen or so. The internet browsing speed is effectively identical, regardless of whatever the specs claim. The new cameras are supposedly slightly better, but probably not enough to be noticeable unless you've got a highly trained eye. The only features that the new iPhones have a…

Take a look at

http://campl.us/posts/iPhone-Camera-Comparison

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by jnelso99 » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 5:26 PM UTC

smspence wrote: post #43

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

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It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

"1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names" Maybe it's still too early in the morning for me, but I laughed at that way harder than I should have. Haha, thanks for that.

If it were their names, imagine the fun in explaining what happened to 2.