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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by noahc »

randomdata wrote: post #78
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

How do you know that the case saved the day? I once had my case-less iPad fall from a ledge five feet above the surface it eventually landed on and it survived with nary a scratch. They seem fairly rugged on their own.

I remember when I first got smartphones around 2006 or 2007, I was breaking mine every 6 months or so. I currently have the original galaxy from samsung, and it is still going strong over 2 years later.

I think the cases were really important, but once the HTC Hero and that generation came out, then magically my phone lasted years!

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by the_mat »

The "it feels so much faster" comments don't fly with me. The iPhone 4 still feels slick and speedy in September 2012. The 4S was faster, but it wasn't noticeable except for certain apps. Now the 5 is 2x faster again, but it's how much CPU is really needed to slide icons around and play music and look at photos?

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by agosnell »

MrMember wrote: post #81
betterth wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, right? Considering how many times in the trials people have been unable to tell APPLE AND SAMSUNG products apart, you'd think readers here would realize that those people are obviously going to have trouble with products in the same family!

This does raise an interesting point about HN as a whole. I remember in one of the Apple/Samsung threads someone brought up the point that people couldn't tell Apple and Samsung products apart, and in that case it was used as an attack against Samsung and 'proof' that they were copying. In this instance the exact same idea is used as a defense for Apple.

I think the simplest explanation for it is that HN is large and contains multitudes.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by gurpreet42 »

ANH wrote: post #54
ollysb wrote: post #3

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I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

I've never had a case on my iPhones (3G, 3GS), dropped them numerous times on concrete, and the only thing that put one out of commission was dropping the 3G in a toilet. Replaced it with a 3GS in 2009 and it still functions perfectly. Admittedly, it looks beat to heck compared to other folks' phones, but that ain't no thing. Never understood how Apple can sell so many phones if they can take the beating I give them.

I never used any type of case for my iPhone 4S. Getting new product with new features is always a craze for some people.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by mojowo11 »

jmspring wrote: post #22
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

Likewise. Mine has taken more than a few spills and the case has saved it. I may just be a klutz.

Serious question: given that you purchased a case and then dropped the phone in the case, how can you possible claim to know whether the case saved it? All you know is that you dropped your phone with a case on and it didn't break.

I see this correlation = causation logic all the time about phone cases, and I find it quite bizarre. I've had an iPhone for 3 years now (3GS, then 4S). I've never used a case (or screen protector). I've dropped my phone before with no case and it survived. I've dropped it on pavement a couple times. I even lost it in the snow at a ski slope last winter. Someone found it and returned it. Works fine.

I don't doubt that cases reinforce phones, but I do think that people regard them as much more necessary than they actually are. Sure, if you have a kid in the house who loves to play with your phone, you should probably get a case. But as long you're careful with your phone for the most part (i.e. you're not consistently dropping it on pavement or something, you don't carry it in the same pocket as your keys, etc.), you probably don't need a case or screen protector. The phones aren't THAT fragile.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by mikeryan »

benihana wrote: post #24
TillE wrote: post #19

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> at full cost Apple will actually send you a new/refurbished iPhone 4S for just $199, much much less than the cost of a new unlocked no-contract phone. You just mail in the broken one. http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=Un... I recently broke my iPad's screen (dropped it, completely smashed) and got a new one for about half the original price.

For most Americans, that is full cost for an iPhone. Even though it's technically the cost with a contract, I'd wager that 98% of all people who purchase iPhones purchase them subsidized by carriers with contracts.

For most Americans, that is full cost for an iPhone.

Not really, thats the full price of a phone and a plan, its still a subsidized price, and Apple is still providing a discount by offering replacements for $199.

Try losing a phone while 1 year into a plan and its going to cost you $300-500 to replace it.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by grecy »

__abc wrote: post #28

I imagine this can be done with almost all handsets, laptops, etc. I'm guessing this is more "human nature" than Apple Fanboy'sm at a large consumer scale.

I'd bet it can be done with just about everything in our consumer culture.

Can average people on the street spot the difference between a 2013 Ford F-150 and a 2012 model?

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by [deleted] »

randomdata wrote: post #78
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

How do you know that the case saved the day? I once had my case-less iPad fall from a ledge five feet above the surface it eventually landed on and it survived with nary a scratch. They seem fairly rugged on their own.

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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by kirubakaran »

MrMember wrote: post #81
betterth wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, right? Considering how many times in the trials people have been unable to tell APPLE AND SAMSUNG products apart, you'd think readers here would realize that those people are obviously going to have trouble with products in the same family!

This does raise an interesting point about HN as a whole. I remember in one of the Apple/Samsung threads someone brought up the point that people couldn't tell Apple and Samsung products apart, and in that case it was used as an attack against Samsung and 'proof' that they were copying. In this instance the exact same idea is used as a defense for Apple.

Yes, the cognitive dissonance is staggering. But we are able to see it because we don't worship Apple. This makes me wonder what cognitive dissonances that I might have, that I am completely blind to, which others can see through right away as they don't subscribe to the same world-view.
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