No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
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Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#42Wow that video of the house next to the mine in Arkansas is nuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrkZtuVPdU&embeds_referring... I would legitimately have driven my car through that building if I lived here.
How is that legal in US? I am pretty sure that is not legal is many part of the world even if the sound was only on from 9 to 5. And last time I went to a Datacentre it may be an eye sore but it doesn't produce any noise at all. Do all DC in US produce noise like that?
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Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#43>The Amazon centers are property tax-abated for 10 years, providing instead 1.5% income tax on workers via a joint economic development agreement with Marysville. After construction, a small fraction of workers remain to be taxed, she said. Lol, gotta love the scam. Small town politicians must get some amazing bribes. >While under construction about a year ago, a worker at the Warren Road Amazon facility was crushed…
>You immediately arrest have any employee interfering with emergency response and throw them in jail. Imagine that you work for a 3 letter US agency and is storing confidential data on AWS. Would you allow random individuals (yes even for emergency personnel) to have unfetter access to your computation and storage systems? What about health data? What about data belonging to other countries? Do you do a sweep for una…
If the first responders can draw guns on the DataCenter and it can’t defend itself, it’s not worthy of being declared a TLA site.
Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#44>The Amazon centers are property tax-abated for 10 years, providing instead 1.5% income tax on workers via a joint economic development agreement with Marysville. After construction, a small fraction of workers remain to be taxed, she said. Lol, gotta love the scam. Small town politicians must get some amazing bribes. >While under construction about a year ago, a worker at the Warren Road Amazon facility was crushed…
> "And we've struggled to gain access to emergencies. They'll stop us at the gate, and our medic units have been delayed. They're denying us access to patients. > You immediately arrest have any employee interfering with emergency response and throw them in jail. Repeat until Amazon runs out of employees dumb enough to continue doing so. Absolutely. Ex-paramedic/firefighter. We responded to a cult facility once (thin…
I like the part where people suddenly realize just how much gate you would need to stop 30 tons of fire truck.
Most facilities don’t have it. Those that do have their own medical personnel (and tanks, usually).
Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#45Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The ones hosting classified data used by federal agencies. https://aws.amazon.com/federal/us-intelligence-community/
Is that this one in particular?
Reading between the lines: yes, certainly. Amazon wouldn't stop firefighters from getting into a normal datacenter, nor would they have the authority to stop them if they wanted to. A private corporation can't demand background checks from emergency responders; a letter agency can.
Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How is that legal in US? I am pretty sure that is not legal is many part of the world even if the sound was only on from 9 to 5. It's probably not legal, although this is an area of law that is generally delegated to the most local levels of governments, so the details will vary based on where exactly you're located. There's going to be a catch-all public nuisance ordinance this would fall under, although there may…
Yeah, this could happen very easily, especially in a small municipality. A hypothetical order of events: A datacenter operator approaches the township, selling the town commissioners on a project that will make them an "AI hub". The town leaders don't know the correct questions to ask, especially regarding noise, but they know they'll be lambasted if they turn this down. And the developer claims they have a dozen oth…
Oh hey, that’s how upstate New York got ripped off on Bitcoin!
I’m sure all those jobs from coinmint materialized.
Oh wait, they didn’t…
Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that this one in particular?
Reading between the lines: yes, certainly. Amazon wouldn't stop firefighters from getting into a normal datacenter, nor would they have the authority to stop them if they wanted to. A private corporation can't demand background checks from emergency responders; a letter agency can.
One would think they would cite that as a reason
Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#49Wow that video of the house next to the mine in Arkansas is nuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrkZtuVPdU&embeds_referring... I would legitimately have driven my car through that building if I lived here.
How is that legal in US? I am pretty sure that is not legal is many part of the world even if the sound was only on from 9 to 5. And last time I went to a Datacentre it may be an eye sore but it doesn't produce any noise at all. Do all DC in US produce noise like that?
It's in a poor Republican state, so you can get away with all kinds of things.
Re: No more data centers: Ohio township pushes back against influx of Amazon, others
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
>You immediately arrest have any employee interfering with emergency response and throw them in jail. Imagine that you work for a 3 letter US agency and is storing confidential data on AWS. Would you allow random individuals (yes even for emergency personnel) to have unfetter access to your computation and storage systems? What about health data? What about data belonging to other countries? Do you do a sweep for una…
I've never experienced it but I've been told that if an emergency responder needs to enter an area where classified information is stored you let them in, escort them, and security will debrief them and have them sign an NDA after the fact if they saw any classified information.
> you let them in, escort them
My understanding is that the fire department has pretty broad legal authority to tell you where to shove your policies your if your building is on fire. They can legally smash down your doors, haul you out kicking and screaming, and detain you outside of the building while they put the fire out.