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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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achompas wrote: post #80
Alex3917 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The battery life is almost exactly the same. All of the most popular apps still run on the 3GS, and run well, with the exception of a half dozen or so. The internet browsing speed is effectively identical, regardless of whatever the specs claim. The new cameras are supposedly slightly better, but probably not enough to be noticeable unless you've got a highly trained eye. The only features that the new iPhones have a…

The battery life is almost exactly the same. One phone uses LTE, while the other uses 3G. I'm also ignoring how the 5 is easily faster than the 3GS, which requires more power. All of the most popular apps still run on the 3GS, and run well, with the exception of a half dozen or so. This will change as the 3GS doesn't get iOS 7 and other apps start requiring it (or a full-featured iOS 6). The internet browsing speed i…

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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by mikeash »

Alex3917 wrote: post #53
bornhuetter wrote: post #45

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> there's essentially zero difference between the 3GS and the iPhone 5. Are you kidding? I'm no iOS fan, but I think that statement is a bit ridiculous.

The battery life is almost exactly the same. All of the most popular apps still run on the 3GS, and run well, with the exception of a half dozen or so. The internet browsing speed is effectively identical, regardless of whatever the specs claim. The new cameras are supposedly slightly better, but probably not enough to be noticeable unless you've got a highly trained eye. The only features that the new iPhones have a…

> The new cameras are supposedly slightly better, but probably not enough to be noticeable unless you've got a highly trained eye.

This is completely nuts. The camera on the 3GS was the first acceptable camera in an iPhone, but it was nothing special. The 4S camera rivals dedicated point-and-shoot cameras for quality, and the 5's should be even better. The difference between the 3GS and the 4S (I've had both) is extremely noticeable.

And the idea that internet browsing speed would be unaffected, when the 5 has a way faster CPU and fricken LTE is so bizarre I can't even begin to understand how you make that statement. Are you somehow under the impression that internet browsing speed on the 3GS was already being bottlenecked by the remote server?

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by volandovengo »

cooldeal wrote: post #69

Perception, hype and peer influence trumps reality and shapes people attitude most of the time. Remember Vista's Project Mojave? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihorvo2tEuA

Great point. These are great case studies on the importance of marketing and a strong brand. With a strong brand, people give you the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by redidas »

ojbyrne wrote: post #98

These man on the street stupidity bits are a staple of late night comedy, but for every stupid person, there could be 50 people who aren't stupid, and immediately get the joke. You just don't see the latter group. There's probably also a third, even smarter group, who understand that if they play along, they might end up on tv.

This is understandable, but it still exposes that there is a group of "stupid" people out there that would accept an iPhone 4S as the new iPhone 5.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by drivingmenuts »

TillE wrote: post #19
josefresco wrote: post #11

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The point in "preserving" your iPhone is so you don't have to purchase another one, at full cost if you accidentally drop it and it breaks. My slim case while more simple than most, has saved my iPhone countless times. I could care less if my phone gets dinged, or scratched a bit, but complete failure is an expensive fix.

> at full cost Apple will actually send you a new/refurbished iPhone 4S for just $199, much much less than the cost of a new unlocked no-contract phone. You just mail in the broken one. http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=Un... I recently broke my iPad's screen (dropped it, completely smashed) and got a new one for about half the original price.

I dunno what your situation is, but even at the best of times, $199 is a lot of money.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by mikeash »

Alex3917 wrote: post #68
rdl wrote: post #55

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Absolutely true for the core "phone" functionality. 4S/5 are easy to justify from a security perspective, and the retina display on 4/4S/5 really is a huge improvement over the 3GS. LTE in the 5 also is a big win -- I'm going to try doing VoIP over LTE (G.722) so I don't have to play with Google Voice anymore. I am amazed that the 3GS supports iOS 6, though -- I wonder if it will support the next big iOS now that it'…

"LTE in the 5 also is a big win" At least on AT&T it's only supported in a handful of random town in the middle of nowhere. Not only does it not work in NYC, there aren't even plans to get it working any time soon. By the time it's actually up and running with a reasonable amount of coverage the iPhone 6 will be out.

That's not what AT&T says. They cover a ton of places with LTE, including New York City:

http://www.att.com/network/

I suppose they might be lying, but that would be pretty egregious even for a cell carrier.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by mikeash »

enraged_camel wrote: post #104
chc wrote: post #65

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No, the alternative is you buy a $20 case so your phone doesn't get damaged by a four-foot drop. If you look four posts up, that was the topic of this thread.

Doesn't sound like a very good alternative. You're paying 10% of the cost of the phone to protect it against (some) accidents, but in the process set it back a generation, by making it thicker and heavier. That's pretty costly as far as insurance goes.

Only if you place a high priority on thickness. I personally don't, and am actually fairly annoyed that cell phone makers don't have the option to e.g. double the thickness of their phones in exchange for a 2-3x increase in battery life.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by rdl »

Alex3917 wrote: post #68
rdl wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely true for the core "phone" functionality. 4S/5 are easy to justify from a security perspective, and the retina display on 4/4S/5 really is a huge improvement over the 3GS. LTE in the 5 also is a big win -- I'm going to try doing VoIP over LTE (G.722) so I don't have to play with Google Voice anymore. I am amazed that the 3GS supports iOS 6, though -- I wonder if it will support the next big iOS now that it'…

"LTE in the 5 also is a big win" At least on AT&T it's only supported in a handful of random town in the middle of nowhere. Not only does it not work in NYC, there aren't even plans to get it working any time soon. By the time it's actually up and running with a reasonable amount of coverage the iPhone 6 will be out.

Right, Verizon is the "good" choice for the iPhone 5 (it supports GSM too when roaming), and Sprint is the unlimited (but slower, since LTE isn't rolled out yet) choice.

I'm going Verizon since they have better coverage in Yosemite and some other areas where no other network seems to have coverage.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by graeme »

brown9-2 wrote: post #18
graeme wrote: post #15

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That explains screen protectors. It doesn't necessarily explain cases. I drop my phone about once per week. And I've cracked a screen in the past. I like being able to continue to use my phone.

Why do you think a case makes the phone unusable? This is not my experience at all. What type of case are you thinking of specifically?

I meant, dropping my phone without a case would make the phone unusable. I use a case, and was responding to the parent comment that said people use cases for reasons of emotional attachment.
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