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Intel Arc Pro B50 GPU Launched at $349 for Compact Workstations

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Re: Intel Arc Pro B50 GPU Launched at $349 for Compact Workstations

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https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-pro-b50-linux >Overall the Intel Arc Pro B50 was at 1.47x the performance of the NVIDIA RTX A1000 with that mix of OpenGL, Vulkan, and OpenCL/Vulkan compute workloads both synthetic and real-world tests. That is just under Intel's own reported Windows figures of the Arc Pro B50 delivering 1.6x the performance of the RTX A1000 for graphics and 1.7x the performance of the A1000…

Comparing price to performance in this space might not make much sense as it would seem. One of the (very few) interesting qualities in the A1000 is that it's single slot, low profile, workstation GPU. Intel kept the "powered by the PCIe slot" aspect, but made it dual slot and full height. Needing a "workstation" GPU in a tiny form factor (i.e. not meant to slot and power full sized GPUs) was something one could squeeze on price for, but the only selling point of this is the price.

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4x Mini DP is common for low profile workstation cards, see the Quadro P1000, T1000, Radeon Pro WX 4100, etc.

You can also get GT730's with 4xHDMI - not fast, but great for office work and display/status boards type scenarios. Single slot passive design too, so you can stack several in a single PC. Currently just £63 UK each. [0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-GT730-4H-SL-2GD5-GeForce-multi...

It's unbelievable that piece of shit is still selling for a ridiculous price.

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I'm glad Intel is continuing to make GPUs, really. But ultimately it seems like an uphill battle against a very entrenched monopoly with a software and community moat that was built up over nearly 20 years at this point. I wonder what it will take to break through.

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I remember UE1 being playable even software mode, such as the first Deus EX. Now, I think the Surreal Engine (UE1 reimplementation) needs damn GL 3.3 (if not 4.5 and Vulkan) to play games I used to play in an Athlon. Now I can't use surreal to Play DX on my legacy n270 netbook with GL 2.1... something that was more than enough to play the game at 800x600 with everything turned on and much more. A good thing is that I…

Vanilla CDDA has a lot of entertaining endings, proper or not. I tend to find one within the first one or two in-game days. Great game! I like to install it now and then just to marvel at all the new things that have been added and then be killed by not knowing what I am doing. Never got far enough to interact with most systems in the game or worry about proper endings.

CDDA:BN adds a true 'endgame' objective (story bound) but OFC you are free to do anything you want anytime, eve after 'finishing' the game.

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>Because the market of people who want huge RAM GPUs for home AI tinkering is basically about 3 Hacker News posters You're wrong. It's probably more like 9 HN posters.

There are also 3 who, for retro reasons, want GPUs to have 8 bits and 256MB or less of VRAM

With 256M of VRAM you can play HD videos.

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Or shrink the margin down to just 50% and sell 10x the number of cards (for the week or two it would take Nvidia to announce a 5090 with 128gb)

Nvidia uses VRAM amount for market segmentation. They can't make a 128GB consumer card without cannibalizing their enterprise sales. Which means Intel or AMD making an affordable high-VRAM card is win-win. If Nvidia responds in kind, Nvidia loses a ton of revenue they'd otherwise have available to outspend their smaller competitors on R&D. If they don't, they keep more of those high-margin customers but now the ones…

> The increase in the amount people would be willing to pay for a card with more VRAM is unambiguously more than the increase in the manufacturing cost.

I guess you already have the paper if it is that unambiguous. Would you mond sharing the data/source?

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Really confused why the Intel and AMD both continue to struggle and yet still refuse to offer what Nvidia wont, i.e. high ram consumer GPUs. I'd much prefer paying 3x cost for 3x VRAM (48GB/$1047), 6x cost for 6x VRAM (96GB/$2094), 12x cost for 12x VRAM (192GB/$4188), etc. They'd sell like hotcakes and software support would quickly improve. At 16GB I'd still prefer to pay a premium for NVidia GPUs given its superior…

I think it's a bit of planned obsolescence as well. The 1080ti has been a monster with it's 11GB VRAM up until this generation. A lot of enthusiasts basically call out that Nvidia won't make that mistake again since it led to longer upgrade cycles.

Re: Intel Arc Pro B50 GPU Launched at $349 for Compact Workstations

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https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-pro-b50-linux >Overall the Intel Arc Pro B50 was at 1.47x the performance of the NVIDIA RTX A1000 with that mix of OpenGL, Vulkan, and OpenCL/Vulkan compute workloads both synthetic and real-world tests. That is just under Intel's own reported Windows figures of the Arc Pro B50 delivering 1.6x the performance of the RTX A1000 for graphics and 1.7x the performance of the A1000…

Comparing price to performance in this space might not make much sense as it would seem. One of the (very few) interesting qualities in the A1000 is that it's single slot, low profile, workstation GPU. Intel kept the "powered by the PCIe slot" aspect, but made it dual slot and full height. Needing a "workstation" GPU in a tiny form factor (i.e. not meant to slot and power full sized GPUs) was something one could sque…

I think you might be mistaken on the height of the card, if you look at the ports they are mini-DP on a low profile bracket. The picture also states that it includes both types of brackets.

Re: Intel Arc Pro B50 GPU Launched at $349 for Compact Workstations

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https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-pro-b50-linux >Overall the Intel Arc Pro B50 was at 1.47x the performance of the NVIDIA RTX A1000 with that mix of OpenGL, Vulkan, and OpenCL/Vulkan compute workloads both synthetic and real-world tests. That is just under Intel's own reported Windows figures of the Arc Pro B50 delivering 1.6x the performance of the RTX A1000 for graphics and 1.7x the performance of the A1000…

Comparing price to performance in this space might not make much sense as it would seem. One of the (very few) interesting qualities in the A1000 is that it's single slot, low profile, workstation GPU. Intel kept the "powered by the PCIe slot" aspect, but made it dual slot and full height. Needing a "workstation" GPU in a tiny form factor (i.e. not meant to slot and power full sized GPUs) was something one could sque…

Theoretically, they should be able to launch something more competitive in that form-factor next year, though, right?

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Compact? Looks about a foot long and two slots wide. Not abnormal but not what I’d call compact either.

It's half-height (fits in "slim" desktops, those media center PCs, and in a 2U server without having to turn it sideways/use a riser), and barely longer than the PCIe socket. Phoronix has a picture with a full-height bracket which maybe gives a better point of comparison: https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-pro-b50-linux (A half-height single-slot card would be even smaller, but those are vanishingly rare these…

Oh IC, the blue one is half height.
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