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Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by MrMember » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:50 PM UTC

betterth wrote: post #32

__abc wrote: post #28

I imagine this can be done with almost all handsets, laptops, etc. I'm guessing this is more "human nature" than Apple Fanboy'sm at a large consumer scale.

I know, right? Considering how many times in the trials people have been unable to tell APPLE AND SAMSUNG products apart, you'd think readers here would realize that those people are obviously going to have trouble with products in the same family!

This does raise an interesting point about HN as a whole. I remember in one of the Apple/Samsung threads someone brought up the point that people couldn't tell Apple and Samsung products apart, and in that case it was used as an attack against Samsung and 'proof' that they were copying.

In this instance the exact same idea is used as a defense for Apple.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by e40 » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:51 PM UTC

ollysb wrote: post #3

raldi wrote: post #2

It seems like the people who say the "new" one is thinner, lighter, more elegant, etc, all have cases on their phones. So in essence, the case sets your phone back a generation or two.

I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

I have a Galaxy Nexus and I have a case because the damn thing is too slippery without it. I would much prefer to not have a case, but I'm not going to risk dropping and breaking it.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by dade_ » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:51 PM UTC

This is meaningless. A friend of mine had a heated discussion with a Samsung rep at a local mobile store. The rep insisted the phone he handed her was a Samsung Galaxy 3, when in fact it was a Galaxy 2. It is scandalous that Samsung would release a new phone that consumers can't differentiate. If he wasn't such an Android fanboy, he would have recorded the whole interaction and posted in on YouTube to show the world that they are all being scammed.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by tlrobinson » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:53 PM UTC

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #5

ollysb wrote: post #3

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I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

It's not about preserving it in mint condition, it's about preserving it in usable condition. I can't speak for others but my case has saved my phone from a smashed screen on several occasions. EDIT: Should possibly also add that I have small children (1 and 3 - that's their ages rather than their names) who use it and I'm damned if I'm giving it to them without a case on...

I've dropped my phone numerous times with only minor dings resulting.

The pot of boiling water, on the other hand... (I was using the phone as a kitchen timer)

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by dmight » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:55 PM UTC

ollysb wrote: post #3

raldi wrote: post #2

It seems like the people who say the "new" one is thinner, lighter, more elegant, etc, all have cases on their phones. So in essence, the case sets your phone back a generation or two.

I never understand why people use cases. What's the point in preserving something in mint condition if you never see it without the case?

I would much rather drop my phone with a case than without one.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by datagramm » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:57 PM UTC

rsiqueira wrote: post #33

In general, great expectation makes part of the prefrontal cortex more excited. Scientists argue that the activity of this brain region shifts the preferences of the wine tasters when they are presented to an expensive wine, for example. [1] "Wine experts and consumers can be fooled by altering their expectations. The expectation it (expensive wine) will taste better actually makes it taste better. Your expectations…

I read a similar experiment where people were given the same food on either paper plates or fine china. As expected, people thought the food served on fancy plates was of higher quality. I forget where...

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by ericdykstra » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:58 PM UTC

TillE wrote: post #19

josefresco wrote: post #11

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The point in "preserving" your iPhone is so you don't have to purchase another one, at full cost if you accidentally drop it and it breaks. My slim case while more simple than most, has saved my iPhone countless times. I could care less if my phone gets dinged, or scratched a bit, but complete failure is an expensive fix.

> at full cost Apple will actually send you a new/refurbished iPhone 4S for just $199, much much less than the cost of a new unlocked no-contract phone. You just mail in the broken one. http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=Un... I recently broke my iPad's screen (dropped it, completely smashed) and got a new one for about half the original price.

Replacing a smashed screen for $200 seems like kind of a rip-off to me.

I've never used a case on any of my phones. My last iPhone was a 3GS. I smashed the screen once and replaced it myself in about 20 minutes for, I think, $25 (the price of a new digitizer is now under $10 though). The 4 and 4S are more difficult, but it still seems like a lot.

I've had my Nexus S for more than a year and it's in mint condition. I'm sure I've dropped it a few times.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by greedo » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:59 PM UTC

Alex3917 wrote: post #53

bornhuetter wrote: post #45

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> there's essentially zero difference between the 3GS and the iPhone 5. Are you kidding? I'm no iOS fan, but I think that statement is a bit ridiculous.

The battery life is almost exactly the same. All of the most popular apps still run on the 3GS, and run well, with the exception of a half dozen or so. The internet browsing speed is effectively identical, regardless of whatever the specs claim. The new cameras are supposedly slightly better, but probably not enough to be noticeable unless you've got a highly trained eye. The only features that the new iPhones have a…

I too have a 3GS, and the difference between its camera and the 4S is unbelievable. I can't wait to upgrade, as I use my iPhone as my principal camera. Go test the 4S and see the difference.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by X-Istence » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:59 PM UTC

Alex3917 wrote: post #53

bornhuetter wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there's essentially zero difference between the 3GS and the iPhone 5. Are you kidding? I'm no iOS fan, but I think that statement is a bit ridiculous.

The battery life is almost exactly the same. All of the most popular apps still run on the 3GS, and run well, with the exception of a half dozen or so. The internet browsing speed is effectively identical, regardless of whatever the specs claim. The new cameras are supposedly slightly better, but probably not enough to be noticeable unless you've got a highly trained eye. The only features that the new iPhones have a…

The difference in camera between the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S is noticeable. This holds true even more so between the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4S.

I used to own an 3G and a 3GS and I use my iPhone 4S WAY more often for taking pictures of anything and everything. It is my preferred go to for taking pictures because it is always with me. I own a point and shoot but it has largely been sitting on my desk at home and is rarely used.

I want to take a look at the iPhone 5 specifically for shooting more pictures with, my iPhone 4S's lens has a slight scratch in it (which doesn't seem to affect the picture quality, thankfully) and something harder that can't be scratched as easily would be fantastic.

Although, if I had maybe invested in a case it wouldn't have been scratched, I prefer to not have a bumper/case around my devices, it makes them feel bulky and larger than they have to be.

Re: Give people an iPhone 4S, tell them it's an iPhone 5

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Post by adestefan » Thu, Sep 13, 2012, 3:59 PM UTC

szx wrote: post #61

bornhuetter wrote: post #6

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Particularly the iPhone 4(s). It's got probably the best form factor of any phone ever made, but people put those massive black rubber things on them with a circle cut in the back to show the Apple logo. Absolute abomination.

Am I the only one who prefers the older (3GS) designs over the new ones (4+) in terms of ergonomics? Sure, my 4S is beautiful, but it just doesn't feel right in my hand. Something about the aluminum/glass seam bothers me, and so I got a slim case and never looked back.

I feel the same way. Phones are actually getting too thin to be comfortable. I've handled some of the newer Android phones (Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, etc.) and I don't think they're much better. Sure they fit better into my front pocket, but I can't hold the things.