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I really wonder who this is for? It's not competing with amd/nvidia at twice the price on terms of performance, but it's also too expensive for a cheap gaming rig. And then there are people who are happy with integrated graphics. Maybe I'm just lacking imagination here, I don't do anything fancy on my work and couch laptops and I have a proper gaming PC.
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They sell the completed card, which has margin. You can charge more money for a card with more vram.
Or shrink the margin down to just 50% and sell 10x the number of cards (for the week or two it would take Nvidia to announce a 5090 with 128gb)
Which means Intel or AMD making an affordable high-VRAM card is win-win. If Nvidia responds in kind, Nvidia loses a ton of revenue they'd otherwise have available to outspend their smaller competitors on R&D. If they don't, they keep more of those high-margin customers but now the ones who switch to consumer cards are switching to Intel or AMD, which both makes the company who offers it money and helps grow the ecosystem that isn't tied to CUDA.
People say things like "it would require higher pin counts" but that's boring. The increase in the amount people would be willing to pay for a card with more VRAM is unambiguously more than the increase in the manufacturing cost.
It's more plausible that there could actually be global supply constraints in the manufacture of GDDR, but if that's the case then just use ordinary DDR5 and a wider bus. That's what Apple does and it's fine, and it may even cost less in pins than you save because DDR is cheaper than GDDR.
It's not clear what they're thinking by not offering this.
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How good is it though compared to 5090 with 32GB? 5090 has double the memory bandwidth, which is very important for inference. In many cases where 32GB won't be enough, 48 wouldn't be enough either. Oh and the 5090 is cheaper.
AMD has more FP16 and FP64 flops (but ~1/2 the FP32 flops). Also the AMD is at half the TDP (300 vs 600 W)
https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-pro-b50-linux >Overall the Intel Arc Pro B50 was at 1.47x the performance of the NVIDIA RTX A1000 with that mix of OpenGL, Vulkan, and OpenCL/Vulkan compute workloads both synthetic and real-world tests. That is just under Intel's own reported Windows figures of the Arc Pro B50 delivering 1.6x the performance of the RTX A1000 for graphics and 1.7x the performance of the A1000…
Really confused why the Intel and AMD both continue to struggle and yet still refuse to offer what Nvidia wont, i.e. high ram consumer GPUs. I'd much prefer paying 3x cost for 3x VRAM (48GB/$1047), 6x cost for 6x VRAM (96GB/$2094), 12x cost for 12x VRAM (192GB/$4188), etc. They'd sell like hotcakes and software support would quickly improve. At 16GB I'd still prefer to pay a premium for NVidia GPUs given its superior…
PS5 has something like 16GB unified RAM, and no game is going to really push much beyond that in VRAM use, we don’t really get Crysis style system crushers anymore.
Huh, I didn't realize these were just released, I came across it looking for a GPU that had AV1 hardware encoding and been putting a shopping cart together for a mini-ITX xeon server for all my ffmpeg shenanigans. I like to Buy American when I can but it's hard to find out which fabs various CPUs and GPUs are made in. I read Kingston does some RAM here and Crucial some SSDs. Maybe the silicon is fabbed here but every…
I have the answer for you, Intel's GPU chips are on TSMC's process. They are not made in Intel-owned fabs. There really is no such thing as "buying American" in the computer hardware industry unless you are talking about the designs rather than the assembly. There are also critical parts of the lithography process that depend on US technology, which is why the US is able to enforce certain sanctions (and due to some…
The new CEO of Intel has said that Intel is giving up competing with Nvidia. Why would you bother with any Intel product with an attitude like that, gives zero confidence in the company. What business is Intel in, if not competing with Nvidia and AMD. Is it giving up competing with AMD too?
The new CEO of Intel has said that Intel is giving up competing with Nvidia.
That's the correct call in my opinion. Training is far more complex and will span multi data centers soon. Intel is too far behind. Inference is much simpler and likely a bigger market going forward.
https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-pro-b50-linux >Overall the Intel Arc Pro B50 was at 1.47x the performance of the NVIDIA RTX A1000 with that mix of OpenGL, Vulkan, and OpenCL/Vulkan compute workloads both synthetic and real-world tests. That is just under Intel's own reported Windows figures of the Arc Pro B50 delivering 1.6x the performance of the RTX A1000 for graphics and 1.7x the performance of the A1000…
#3 player just released something that compares well with price/performace ratio compared to #1 player's release from a year and a half ago... yep
There are huge markets that does not care about SOTA performance metrics but needs to get a job done.
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I am not sure there is significant enough market for those. That is selling enough consumer units to cover all design and other costs. From gamer perspective 16GB is now a reasonable point. 32GB is most one would really want and even that not at more than say 100 more price point. This to me is the gamer perspective. This segment really does not need even 32GB, let alone 64GB or more.
Never underestimate bragging rights in gamers community. Majority of us run unoptimized systems with that one great piece of gear and as long as the game runs at decent FPS and we have some bragging rights it's all ok.
The only time usage was "high" was when I created a VM with 48GB RAM just for kicks.
It was useless. But I could say I had 64GB RAM.
I really wonder who this is for? It's not competing with amd/nvidia at twice the price on terms of performance, but it's also too expensive for a cheap gaming rig. And then there are people who are happy with integrated graphics. Maybe I'm just lacking imagination here, I don't do anything fancy on my work and couch laptops and I have a proper gaming PC.