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US Visa Applications Must Be Submitted from Country of Residence or Nationality

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Re: US Visa Applications Must Be Submitted from Country of Residence or Nationality

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Can you point out what part of the summary is wrong? You’re welcome to write your own summary that’s as detailed as the one I posted with any necessary corrections and I’ll delete my post.

HN's moderation team has been pretty clear that generated comments aren't welcome here. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

They’re free to delete it. I think it adds value.

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I was a US diplomat in India for 2 years and processed tens of thousands of visas. While this change will cause some inconvenience for, e.g., current H-1B visa holders from India who can no longer travel to Canada or Mexio to apply for new visas, in general it makes a lot of sense. I worked at the number one H-1B processing post worldwide. Our post had the expertise to quickly evaluate applications and approve the cl…

Why not disconnect the reviewer from the submission location then?

Re: US Visa Applications Must Be Submitted from Country of Residence or Nationality

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Similar to Europe: for Schengen visas, you must apply to the consulate responsible for your country of legal residence. https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen/visa-pol...

I believe your link says you must apply at the country you're visiting, or the country you're visiting first. And you must apply at the consulate for the country you are a resident of. So if I was applying to visit France, I could do so from the US embassy in France. This seems to differ from the new US rule where you must also apply in the country you're a resident of.

you got that mixed up: you would apply at the french embassy in the US. and, that's the key point for schengen: you would not apply at the eg german embassy in the US, even though both would get you the same visa. the US embassy can't give you a schengen visa, and you could not even get to the one in france since you are not there yet. and if you visit multiple countries, it's either the one where you spend most of the time, or the one where you enter the schengen area (this may be different from the country you visit first because you could have a flight transfer inside schengen). at least as far as i know.

Re: US Visa Applications Must Be Submitted from Country of Residence or Nationality

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Immigrants don’t apply for non immigrant visas

Not defending the US here, but are you saying that overstaying your visa does not exist?

Their point was that this change applies to non-immigrant visas (which in theory are only issued to people who do not intend to immigrate to the US), not immigrant visas.

While true, the State Department already made the same change to immigrant visas a few days ago: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/a...

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It aligns with their effort to ruin the economic situation of American universities.

Please refer me to the part of the Constitution that enumerates the responsibility of the US government to preserve the business model of the modern university system?

Or to capitalism itself, for that matter! We could easily become a modern country if we just had the will.

The recourse to the constitution is silly. It has barely any relevance to the country we've become.

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> This effectively ends “visa shopping” - the practice of applying at embassies with shorter wait times or perceived easier approval rates. It also prevents circumventing countries where the US has suspended visa operations. Exceptions remain for diplomatic visas, UN-related travel, and emergency/humanitarian cases. Let’s give this a computer analogy. Suppose I run a multi-datacenter service, and I have an endpoint i…

If you want a real answer, a big part of it has to do with consular non-reviewability. Basically, there is far less ability for an applicant to make legal challenges to visa decisions made by a US visa officer outside the US.

Another reason is, what happens if you apply for a renewal or different visa type while you're in the US, and your visa is denied? Now we're relying on you to leave the country, whereas if you already had to leave the country to apply and you're denied, you're not still in the US.

There actually was a pilot program for domestic revalidation of H-1Bs. Applicants liked it (no need for a trip outside the US), and those of us working in India liked it (less workload for us). However I doubt this administration will support expansion.

In my experience most renewing H-1Bs planned their visa interviews (or often "dropbox" cases where they didn't even need to come in person) to coincide during a few weeks trip home. They were not generally coming to India, then applying and waiting several months.

The cases that take months are those with some problem - missing some documentation, evidence of petitioner fraud, national security concerns with the applicant, etc. And yes, in those cases people (and sometimes their families) end up getting "stuck" outside the US, kids miss the start of the school year, people can't get back to their apartments and houses and pets. It sucks, but we have vetting for good reasons.

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Hm, this comment makes me realize that there isn’t really a social consensus on whether or not AI generated content is welcome in these kinds of discussions. On one hand, I’m generally annoyed any time I see unsolicited AI generations because it’s usually garbage and I could have just asked an AI myself. But in this case I probably wasn’t going to and this comment is genuinely insightful… I guess I would have preferr…

> isn’t really a social consensus I feel the consensus is clear. Reposting blurbs from robots is anathematic to our discourse.

Your comment adds way less value than the one I generated, reviewed and posted. I refuse to be bullied by people that are anti-AI.

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Really? Do you have any examples? I’ve had visas around the world (and encountered numerous weird requirements) but never have I been required to apply for a visa from my country of nationality. Even China, which is very restrictive, allows for non-national applications. (And in fact, in my experience, it is getting easier with online applications becoming more common.)

I have several examples and lots of personal experience. I’ve been asked to go back from Mexico, Brazil, and Chile while traveling there and applying for a visa to Peru. Finally the Peruvian embassy in Chile gave me a visa to visit Peru because I accidentally bumped into the assistant consul. https://bkpk.me/peru-visa-for-indians/ The San Francisco consulate of India refused to process my spouse’s Indian visa because…

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> isn’t really a social consensus I feel the consensus is clear. Reposting blurbs from robots is anathematic to our discourse.

Your comment adds way less value than the one I generated, reviewed and posted. I refuse to be bullied by people that are anti-AI.

Your comment added nothing, because anyone can get ChatGPT to generate that exact comment.

Re: US Visa Applications Must Be Submitted from Country of Residence or Nationality

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I also agree that this comment is likely AI generated (i.e., "why this matters" gave it away for me. I think I've seen this phrase a lot with ChatGPT). I think it is the last part of the last sentence and the toeing of the party line that bugs me, "likely aimed at improving security screening and preventing abuse of the system". It's "Manufacturing Consent"[0] à la 21st Century. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu…

Again, please point out what’s wrong in the post and I will correct it.

"likely aimed at improving security screening and preventing abuse of the system"

This is an opinion. Is it yours, or the AI's? Moreover, is the AI just trying to be agreeable or is this coming from a platform that has a political agenda, in this case supporting the political actors that are in charge of this visa change? These are the questions that we need to ask ourselves in these modern times.

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