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Re: 996

#3
996 as an employee, especially for companies that don’t offer fast growing stocks, is a super bad deal.

996 for a business owner or top exec at a big company? It’s the norm. And the risk-reward makes sense to them.

Re: 996

#4
A materialist culture inevitably leads to this. It is the logical conclusion of a society that atomized the wholeness of life without realizing that the sum of its parts is less than the whole.

But it is the reality the collective chose. I fully expect things to get worse before they get better.

Re: 996

#5
When I was getting my Ph.D., my advisor jokingly told me that his lab has three 8 hour shifts per day, and I could pick two to work.

This was never literally practiced.

But excessive hours were the norm. And I loved it. It helped me launch into a successful career.

But it hurt my relationship with my partner (now wife), and it burned me out.

I miss those days, but I don’t miss what they did to my health.

Re: 996

#6
What the actual fuck? People need to read labour history; the weekend was something that people had to fight and literally die for.

Re: 996

#7
post #3

996 as an employee, especially for companies that don’t offer fast growing stocks, is a super bad deal. 996 for a business owner or top exec at a big company? It’s the norm. And the risk-reward makes sense to them.

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Re: 996

#8
A note of caution: everything is relative, and details are important.

If you love what you do (artist, self-employed, etc.) a 996 culture can be considered a good thing as a certain amount of "good" stress allows us to feel self-actualized.

As is a 996 culture that provides for work-life balance. For example, working from home with flex time for 12 hours where you get to take long breaks whenever you feel like it to run, walk the dog, eat, get coffee, etc., is quite enjoyable as well. Who cares if you're still replying to emails at 7pm if you can do this, right?

Added note: I find it very interesting that this was immediately downvoted. I'm interested in understanding why for those who wish to share their rationale and perspective.

Re: 996

#9
These times really do feel like those once-in-a-century redefinitions of work and labor, similar to how we got Child Labor Laws and 40-hour work weeks from the labor movement early last century. Intrinsically, more people are realizing that the former social contract was long ago fed into a shredder, and that the lack of a formal contract will have consequences. Technology broke down the 40-hour work week by enabling more work to be done both outside the office and after traditional working hours, drastically increasing productivity and profit while wages stagnated for decades in the face of skyrocketing costs. Now we’re racing ahead towards a breaking point between Capital cheering shit like 996 and AI job-replacement, while more humans can’t afford rent, or food, let alone education or healthcare on their burrito taxi wages.

Something will eventually have to give, if we aren’t proactive in addressing the crises before us. Last time, it took two World Wars, the military bombing miners, law enforcement assassinating union organizers, and companies stockpiling chemical weapons and machine guns before the political class finally realized things must change or all hell would break loose; I only hope we come to our senses far, far sooner this time around.

Re: 996

#10
not only are you missing out on what makes life great and worth living w/ this arrangement, but from a strictly utilitarian standpoint, working that many hours your productivity plummets (unless you're on stimulants), and it's just straight up more effective to work fewer hours...
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