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Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by tho2342o349423 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #44

I find it weird how companies talk out both sides of their mouth on AI. On the one hand it's this magical tool that will make you 10x more efficient at your job, and on the other it's something they have to market heavily and shove in your face at every turn - sometimes outright forcing you to engage with it. These two things don't seem compatible - if the tool was that good people would be beating down their doors t…

At this point, pretty much all of the US markets (and the USD) is hinging on "unlimited upside" promised by techbros and their magic AGIs & robots. They probably get orders from all the way up the food chain to keep the show going.

Wonder what'll happen to JPY once the Yen-carry unwinds from this massive hype-cycle - will probably hit 70 JPY to the dollar! Currently Sony Bank in Japan offers USD time-deposits at 8% pa. - that's just insanely high for what is supposed to be a stable developed economy.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by delusional »

AlexandrB wrote: post #44

I find it weird how companies talk out both sides of their mouth on AI. On the one hand it's this magical tool that will make you 10x more efficient at your job, and on the other it's something they have to market heavily and shove in your face at every turn - sometimes outright forcing you to engage with it. These two things don't seem compatible - if the tool was that good people would be beating down their doors t…

The critical realization to connect those two ideas is that they don't believe in what they tell you. They are telling you what _needs_ to be true for them to be geniuses.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by dijit »

AlexandrB wrote: post #44

I find it weird how companies talk out both sides of their mouth on AI. On the one hand it's this magical tool that will make you 10x more efficient at your job, and on the other it's something they have to market heavily and shove in your face at every turn - sometimes outright forcing you to engage with it. These two things don't seem compatible - if the tool was that good people would be beating down their doors t…

I agree, if you’ll allow me to diatribe my thoughts about why this could be (without thinking that these are my actual firm opinions);

Since right now there is an aire of competition, I would guess that these companies believe its winner-take-all, and are doing their “one monopoly to aid another” to get this market before theres another verb-leader (like chatgpt for llm, or google for search).

It could also be that they think that people won’t know how good they are until they try it, that it has to be seen to be believed. So getting people to touch it is important to them.

But, I think I agree with you, its so heavy handed that it makes me want to abandon the tools that force it on me.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by skydhash »

fatchan wrote: post #50

Github is my push --mirror location, nothing more. Main is a popular Gitlab instance gitgud.io, and I host my own secondary mirror. Gitlab is of course adding more AI and corpo garbage, and once they prevent disabling these "features" on community editions we'll see a fork of gitlab, probably. The assertion that github is some bustling hub of opportunity is a strange one. At best you get people more likely to contrib…

I think it’s mostly people around the JS/Go/Rust ecosystems that tend to be vocal about GitHub being a community. For a lot of projects I couldn’t care less if it was just cgit or gitea.

It’s quite easy to setup git to send patch via email. And you can always use a pastebin to host the diff if you’re sharing ideas. Bit I guess that’s not as visible as the GitHub dashboard.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by benrutter »

LtWorf wrote: post #2

I went to https://codeberg.org/

Me too! I absolutely love it as a project, but I do miss finding and seeing the development of prihects I'm interested in there.

Any tips for finding other interesting codeberg hosted projects?

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by api »

What is the actual rationale behind some companies literally shoving AI down people’s throats?

It’s fascinating stuff and can be very useful. Why does it have to be rammed so hard? I’ve never quite seen anything like this.

Or maybe I have. It reminds me a little of the obviously astroturfed effort to ram crypto down people’s throats. But crypto was something most people didn’t have any actual utility for. A magic tireless junior intern who had memorized the entire Internet is actually useful.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by Disposal8433 »

transcriptase wrote: post #49
layer8 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub isn’t critical infrastructure, it’s only real USP is network effects.

If outages make headlines and stop whole companies in their tracks worldwide, that’s critical infrastructure, not just network effects.

> If outages [...] stop whole companies in their tracks

They should fucking learn how to code because no one in their right mind would depend on such an external service that can be easily replaced by cloning repos locally or using proxies like Artifactory. Even worse when you know that Microsoft is behind it.

Yes, most companies don't have good practices and suck at maintaining a basic infrastructure, but it doesn't mean GitHub is the center of the internet. It's only a stupid git server with PRs.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by netsharc »

transcriptase wrote: post #49
layer8 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub isn’t critical infrastructure, it’s only real USP is network effects.

If outages make headlines and stop whole companies in their tracks worldwide, that’s critical infrastructure, not just network effects.

Gotta love the genius of creating a single point of failure out of a distributed (version control) system...

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by benrutter »

Tangential, but I think github's secret weapon of inertia is. . .(drumroll) github stars.

They're still seen by a lot of people as a sign of project maturity and use. My unfounded suspicion is if they all dissapeared tomorrow, people would be a lot more likely to try alternative code forges.

I've been using codeberg of late, more because of their politics than anything, but in all honesty the user experience between github/gitlab/codeberg/sourcehut/gitea is near identical.

Re: Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

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Post by 3np »

I've had an ongoing support ticket with GH for several months now asking them to actually disable Copilot, as there is Copilot all over and it's clear from inlined JSON on github.com pages when signed in that my account is actually opted in to Copilot features despite Settings page saying features should be disabled. I've never ever opted in to anything related to GH AI and am not a vscode user.

They keep closing the ticket and saying it's "with the engineering team". I keep reopening and asking for resolution, escalation, or progress.

GitHub did have working and professional support in the past but in 2025 they are just malicious.

It's surreal.

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