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Ask HN: Is Content Management a solved problem?

#1
As part of one of my hacking for fun projects, I decided to take on the task of building a lightweight CMS for Ruby on Rails. It's more of an exercise to stretch myself beyond my current experience than anything else.

As I started doing research and building it out, I realized how many CMSs exist out in the wild today[1]. I also determined that this is a project that doesn't scratch my own itch, which makes me nervous about making design decisions.

None of these things will deter me from finishing my project, but some of them may deter me from publicly releasing it.

What does Hacker News think about content management? Is it a flawed system needing radical rethinking, or is it merely a landscape littered with half-baked options? Any reflections on having non-technical people update dynamic content would be appreciated.

[1] -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems

Re: Ask HN: Is Content Management a solved problem?

#2
My personal experience is that there is a lot half-baked shit out there for CMS systems and few, if any, really deliver on the dream.

Part of the problem (IMO) is that they're trying to allow very non-technical users to do pixel-precise web layouts and the technology just isn't there yet.

Re: Ask HN: Is Content Management a solved problem?

#3
Content management is very definitely NOT a solved problem.

Even if you restrict the domain to just blogging software, there are a ton of unsatisfied people (myself included). Blogging software is still bad enough that a bunch of people are still writing their own.

A possible solution is something that's more than a framework but less than a fully functioning software package. I think that's the general idea behind drupal, but during the limited time I spent with it I wasn't very impressed.

Re: Ask HN: Is Content Management a solved problem?

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Content management is very definitely NOT a solved problem. Even if you restrict the domain to just blogging software, there are a ton of unsatisfied people (myself included). Blogging software is still bad enough that a bunch of people are still writing their own. A possible solution is something that's more than a framework but less than a fully functioning software package. I think that's the general idea behind d…

I agree. There are also constant give/take issues attacking it: Simplicity vs This feature, Power vs Eas of Use, Good tools for non technical people vs Fexibility etc etc.

None seem to have gotten it down yet.

Basically I agree. Content management is a lot less solved then spreadsheets or word processing.

Re: Ask HN: Is Content Management a solved problem?

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I think there are enough specific end-user needs to justify tons of specific CMS instances. It's funny to me how much wordpress is hacked up in order to try and accommodate more business oriented clients. I think tons of freelancers sell their clients hacked wordpress sites because it gives their clients CMS access, even if all they are doing is "updating a blog post".

A CMS is just a tool, not a solution. So rather than asking if CMS is a solved problem I think a better approach would be asking what problems need which kind of CMS and building from there.

Re: Ask HN: Is Content Management a solved problem?

#10
I did some looking around a while ago and couldn't find anything that gracefully gives users ACL-like, fine-grained control over who can see which of their postings. This seems like a clear hole in the space, too me.

I'd like to be able to create a group of users -- let's say by email address, so they wouldn't even have to be registered with the site at the time I created the content -- and then be able to post specifically to that group.

Drupal Organic Groups gets close, but sort of misses the mark -- I don't want people to have join a group, I just want them to see content I've targeted to them when they come to my page on this hypothetical site. Also Drupal's permissions system seems sort of disjointed -- various plugins can too easily collide with each other's customized permissions schemes. (Caveat: this based on reading, not implementation, so maybe it can be done.)

Also -- I want this to be something I can run on a server I own. I don't want to put content I care about in the cloud.

This idea has been kicking around in my head for a long time now. If anyone knows of a CMS that lets you do this, I'd be interested. Someday (like when I've finished with grad school?) maybe I'll scratch this itch...

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