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I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Are you talking about shore power? Because that has nothing to do with EV charging.

No.

Then what are you talking about?

We are talking about electric vehicle charging, as in, cars that have electric motors and are powered by a battery.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Small, cheap electric cars are the best! Fun to drive, easy to maintain. I own an VW eUP 2015 model which costed me €4000 used. I do not know if they where for sale outside of Norway (I only see them here!), but it is the perfect car for 95% of our mobility needs. I drive it to work every day (where I can charge it for free). I drive it to Oslo and can park/charge almost anywhere around town for really cheap, about €…

> is usually ~€16/h Holy HELL that is crazy. I thought £5/hr in London was crazy.

Try downtown Manhattan.

As to the GP, it’s refreshing to hear about a reliable VW. Most folks I know, that own VWs, complain about reliability.

But they still love their cars. I’ve never driven a VW, but, apparently, they handle quite well.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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There are an insignificant number of kitchens with unused 220V outlets. 220V was wired in in case the owner wanted to install an electric stove, but a gas stove was installed instead. The problem is that it's in an inconvenient location and running a 220V/30A extension cord beside a stove is a really bad idea.

I was thinking about going from gas to induction in a remodel to cut down on fumes and make cleaning easier, but we have not a 220V to do it, so an electrician will have to fish wires up to the kitchen if we go that far. We would also install a speed oven at the same time, so that’s another 220V outlet, what would be one more on the counter for a kettle?

I've been eyeing a battery-backed induction stove for my next remodel. The point is that it can charge itself on a regular 120V outlet while producing as much as 10kW output, far more than a plug-in stove. Something like https://copperhome.com/products/charlie or https://www.impulselabs.com/

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Because paying lower taxes is not a productive activity. It is quite plain a simple. It is an extractive activity. In particular, the taxes being paid in these jurisdictions are not earned in them - which makes it even worse.

Wait paying lower taxes is extractive?

Yep, when it is paper money being transferred from other jurisdictions with the sole purpose of reducing the tax bill.

Thisnis not rocket science? Why all the lobbying?

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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I would add one thing my family has complained about wrt road trip charging is it’s not just the time you wait to charge, it’s the time and games/anger dealing with all the people in line waiting to charge.

And this is with marginal EV adoption. Imagine if it was full scale the headaches that would come. I mean think of the current amount of gas stations around, that would be insufficient to cover EV demand due to the fact EVs need to linger for so much longer. So good bye to whatever in your town needs to be destroyed in order to park more cars and charge them. So much for walkable cities.

It gets exponentially better with bigger adoption, because chargers being in use pay for installation of more chargers (and batteries got cheaper, so charging stations have their own storage and are less limited by the size of their grid connection).

Service stations on my route in the UK went from having 2-3 medium-speed chargers total in 2019 to having 2 rows of 20 high-speed chargers, and another parking doubling that is under construction. The same happened all over Western Europe - grew from a few singular chargers at supermarkets and hotels to many large charging hubs along highways.

Reliability and ease of payment also got better, partly because regulations started requiring it, but also because the stations don't sit idle any more, and it started to matter for revenue.

Also in EU there's enough charger coverage now that there's competition. I don't have to sit in line to the only charger in town, I can drive few miles to the next station.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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It is called the tax haven premium. Just like Luxemburg or caymen island also works well as nations. I don't think it is something to be proud of though, as the riches are not earned.

Are you proud of yours? I'm US and I'm not proud of how our taxes are earned and I'm definitely not proud how they're spent.

This is a strawman - but we can play.

You should be proud, but you should also lobby for better spend of the tax money.

Regardless, a well functioning nation should target some level of equality. This does not necesarrily happen through taxes, but taxes have just shown to be incredibly effective.

Regardless of your status, you still suffer from high inequality. If you are poor it is self explanatory. But even rich people need to shield them from ceo killers, use incredibly bad infrastructure, etc.

In that view I do understand why you are not a proud US person - but taxes would likely safe you - like it did in the 60s.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Dunno if it's the case here, but the charger doesn't know if it's plugged into an extension cord that isn't rated for 3kW or whatever EU plugs put out

IMO it should be illegal to sell an unfused extension-cord. That would solve like 95% of the issues that get blamed on extension cords.

This is the case in the UK, another win for our bulky plug socket

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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No.

Then what are you talking about? We are talking about electric vehicle charging, as in, cars that have electric motors and are powered by a battery.

In my area according to Google maps I see J1772, CCS1, CCS2, Typ 2, CHAdeMO, NACS next to schuko (landline) (in Austria right now).

As said not all stations provide all the standards, not every station has CCS2, hence why I carry multiple cable adapters. That's all I know really. As said I don't drive an electric car.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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How can you write "I bought the cheapest EV" in the blog title, and have a section called "Why buy Leaf?" followed by a one-liner zinger aphorism "Price." without writing... the price you bought your used Nissan Leaf for? Someone might want to reference how much it cost back in 2025 a few years down the road.

$17k minus an extra $2k added to my Camry's trade-in value, and it's eligible for the $4k used vehicle EV tax rebate at the end of the year. So out the door $15k with 36k miles and 94% doh battery, I was satisfied with the deal. At the end of the tax year I'll have paid $11k for the car, effectively. I tacked on the price of the CHAdeMO adapter mentally to the price I offered, since I knew I'd want it for the one or…

> I'll have paid $11k for the car, effectively.

No you have not. You have paid $11k + a whole working car to get that one. I also can get a new iPhone every year "for only $500" if you consider the real price being "only $500 plus a year-old perfectly-working iPhone"

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Small, cheap electric cars are the best! Fun to drive, easy to maintain. I own an VW eUP 2015 model which costed me €4000 used. I do not know if they where for sale outside of Norway (I only see them here!), but it is the perfect car for 95% of our mobility needs. I drive it to work every day (where I can charge it for free). I drive it to Oslo and can park/charge almost anywhere around town for really cheap, about €…

Why is it so cheap to park your car and not others?

Part of it is likely because Norway has done a lot to encourage the use of EVs. I wouldn't be surprised if this were part of this system. There have been things like tax breaks, not paying for tolls, and allowing people to drive in taxi/bus lanes. I'm not entirely sure about the extent: I haven't driven since I moved to Norway. This is all in addition to building out infrastructure - it is far easier to get around with an electric car now than it was when I moved 10 years ago.

This program isn't the same throughout Norway, though. In Trondheim, it looks like you pay for parking and then you pay for the charging separately so you really aren't parking for free. (Private parking might vary, and sometimes city parking is free).

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