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Re: Milwaukee Police News

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> WARNING: We have detected that you currently have Javascript disabled.

> This website requires the use of Javascript, for the best possible viewing experience we highly recommend that you enable Javascript via your browser's options.

Do I really need to elaborate here? For the record, the site works (to some extent) in Lynx.

But in Firefox without Javascript, they actually took the time to make it completely useless and they have that little block of text on top. Why did they waste their time doing that?

If they don't support non-Javascript browsers, fine. I actually don't care about that. But to... anti-support them. To actively work to make the page useless to them. That is what I don't get. I would appreciate some insight into their thoughts here.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

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It's militaristic, it's alienating, it's fetishistic, it's hostile, it insidiously portrays class and ethnic conflict as an everyday battle worth fighting, and it panders to the worst in Americans who already endorse the myriad excesses and injustices of an ever-growing quasi-private law and order machine that has ruined the lives of millions. But awesome job on the scrollbars, yo.

I live in Melbourne Australia and I have got to say, this is the first reaction I had as well. The imagery used on their website was frankly shocking. My first response was "WTF! Is this really how Americans see their police? Is their job to charge round shooting people?" Compare and contrast the pictures used on the 'about' page of the Victoria police website: http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=3 W…

"WTF! Is this really how Americans see their police?

I live in Wisconsin, in a small town of 20,000.

Our police department has an armored car, with a mount for a water cannon. We've got a TAC [1] team. Our cops carry rifles in the trunks of their patrol cars.

Elsewhere you can find comparable sized police departments that have .50 machine guns, armored personel carriers.

So .. yeah. That's not how we see the police.

It's how they are.

[1] A TAC team is not a SWAT team, although the only difference I can see is our TAC team is only a part-time deal for the officers.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

#53
post #13

It's militaristic, it's alienating, it's fetishistic, it's hostile, it insidiously portrays class and ethnic conflict as an everyday battle worth fighting, and it panders to the worst in Americans who already endorse the myriad excesses and injustices of an ever-growing quasi-private law and order machine that has ruined the lives of millions. But awesome job on the scrollbars, yo.

jpxxxx, how does it "insidiously portray class and ethnic conflict as an everyday battle worth fighting"? And "fetishistic"? I don't know.

It's fair to criticize where criticism is due, but aren't you going a little overboard? Seems like they did a pretty nice job on the visuals here in my opinion.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. I wonder if this is related to hiring problems? The glorification could help find new candidates. I hear the MPD is always hiring...

> I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. Can you elaborate on this? Wisconsin has never struck me as a state with a particularly conservative streak.

Depends on where you go. The news concentrates on Madison and Milwaukee, which tend to vote liberal.

Up state, out of the cities, tends to be more conservative. We just never get on the news.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. I wonder if this is related to hiring problems? The glorification could help find new candidates. I hear the MPD is always hiring...

> I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. Can you elaborate on this? Wisconsin has never struck me as a state with a particularly conservative streak.

I grew up in the suburbs of Milwaukee and diversity just isn't a thing here. As a white dude there are just some areas you are not allowed to go in the city.

Hell there was a race riot after the state fair last year. This segregation definitely contributes to negative stereotypes on all sides.

Now that I live in SF I understand what diversity really means. Poop everywhere...

Re: Milwaukee Police News

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A nitpick about the website: It completely breaks the back button. Back un-scrolls?! WTF. And now for the sad commentary on the social state: The vehicle in the picture says "Rescue" on it in large, friendly letters. The vehicle is a tank festooned with gun ports.

The vehicle is a tank festooned with gun ports.

You're being needlessly alarming.

The vehicle is a wheeled armored personell carrier. Totally not a tank - there aren't any caterpillar tracks.

Go back to bed, nothing to see, no worries, Citizen.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. I wonder if this is related to hiring problems? The glorification could help find new candidates. I hear the MPD is always hiring...

> I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. Can you elaborate on this? Wisconsin has never struck me as a state with a particularly conservative streak.

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Re: Milwaukee Police News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. I wonder if this is related to hiring problems? The glorification could help find new candidates. I hear the MPD is always hiring...

> I grew up in Milwaukee, and I agree, it only serves to support the strong division in that city. Can you elaborate on this? Wisconsin has never struck me as a state with a particularly conservative streak.

The Milwaukee police department has an ugly history. Some of its excesses are the result of institutional traditions dating back a century, when it was seen as a bastion of civil order against anarchists and, later, political progressives. Milwaukee had Socialist mayors from 1910 to 1960; unlike most American cities, the state legislature had authority over the city police and appointed police chiefs who often were hostile to the city Socialists. The police department had a reputation for harassment and intimidation of the political left, gay people, and the counterculture. Police officers were linked to a firebombing of The Bugle-American alternative newspaper in the early 1970s. In January 1981 Milwaukee police officers arrested and beat Wendy O. Williams, lead singer of The Plasmatics, when the punk rockers visited the city on tour. Some of the police department's institutionalized prejudices are tragic, like the two police officers (one who later became head of the police officers' union) who found serial killer and cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer's victim 14-year-old Konerak Sinthasomphone nude on the street, and returned him to Dahmer, later laughing about how they had reunited two gay lovers (Dahmer killed and dismembered Sinthasomphone). It is also dangerous to be black in Milwaukee. In the 1970s, when I lived in Milwaukee, I remember repeated news stories about black men who were arrested and died in custody. I assumed by now that the police department's violent institutionalized racism had been cleaned up by improved training and diversity in hiring but I was surprised to learn that "black man dies in police custody" is still a common local news story (just google it: "dies in custody milwaukee").

Among US states, Wisconsin has a reputation for "good government" and efforts to eliminate cronyism and institutionalized corruption. The state is known for a history of Progressive politics from an era when Liberalism and Socialism were admired by many. At the same time, Milwaukee has long been one of the most racially divided cities in the US, more segregated than many cities in the South. The state has long been politically and culturally divided. Its divisions, fear and violence, reaction and repression are as much part of the state's history as is its reputation for liberalism, though not as well known.

What does this have to do with a website that promotes the Milwaukee Police Department? Maybe not much at all.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

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I despise sites like this, they are _painful_ to use and the transfer of actual information is nearly zero. I spend more time trying to get the content to line up than I do consuming it. It comes off as a tech demonstration put together without a single thought given to the usability or business goals of the site. Another example of this type of design: http://www.sugarloaf2020.com/ Please stop designing sites like t…

What's wrong with the sugarloaf website? If you click on the links on the left the content automatically lines up.

If you scroll the experience is terribly broken and scrolling is a deeply ingrained interaction paradigm for web sites. Its particularly annoying on a mac trackpad due to inertial scroll.

Saying "don't scroll, use the buttons" to get a non broken experience is like saying "don't click the big red button" to avoid the server throwing a 500.

Re: Milwaukee Police News

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post #13

It's militaristic, it's alienating, it's fetishistic, it's hostile, it insidiously portrays class and ethnic conflict as an everyday battle worth fighting, and it panders to the worst in Americans who already endorse the myriad excesses and injustices of an ever-growing quasi-private law and order machine that has ruined the lives of millions. But awesome job on the scrollbars, yo.

The site was cool but I found it funny how every person on the most wanted list was hispanic or black. But at least only one was because of drugs, the others committed legitimate crimes.
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