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OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salesforce CEO confirms 4,000 layoffs ‘because I need less heads’ with AI - https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/salesforce-ceo-confirms-4000...

Does anybody really believe that SalesForce of all companies has successfully replaced 4000 real and necessary jobs with AI? Or is that more likely just an excuse to justify more layoffs in the tech industry for the usual reasons.

They did say this was specifically in customer service, which if there was a department I believe you might be replaced by AI this would be it;

Alternatively though if the market is bad and there not launching as many new products or appealing to as many new customers, customer support may be a cost center you’d force to have “AI efficiencies”

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How many jobs have they actually 'eaten'? For now, we mostly have AI labs and those in proximity claiming some number of jobs will be obsolete, but the actual job loss has yet to manifest.

entry "throw away, no skill" positions for programming are also kinda going away, or at least get collapsed to a small fraction of positions

to be fair this positions never made that much sense as they tend to cause more trouble then they are helping on the long run, but they exist anyway

and companies should know better then throwing away "junior, not yet skilled, but learning" positions (but then many small startups also are not used to/have the resources to teach juniors, which is a huge issue in the industry IMHO)

but I imagine for many of the huge "we mainly hire from universities"/FANG companies it will turn into a "we need only senior engineers and hire juniors only to grow our own senior engineers", this means the moment to you growth takes too long/stagnates by whatever _arbitrary_ metric you get kicked out fast. And like with their hiring process they have the resources, scale, and number of people who want to work for them to be able to really use some arbitrary imperfect effective discriminatory metrics.

Another aspect is that a lot of the day to day work of software engineering is really dump simple churn, and AI has the potential to massively cut down the time a developer needs to do that, so less developers needed especially in mid to low skill positions.

Now the only luck devs have is that there is basically always more work which was cut due to time pressure but often isn't even supper low priority, so getting things done faster might luckily not map one to one to less jobs being available.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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It's not irony so much as it is brazenly criminal. No one should be in a position of training someone else's AI to replace their job function without consenting to it and without being compensated. The most valuable thing AI can do right now is write code, and it couldn't do that without thousands of StackOverflow volunteers.

No more laws to be enacted on AI in the USA for 10 years thanks to the billionaires. Pouring money into the elections have been a great ROI for the ultra wealthy.

that was removed from the final legislation.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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IIRC this is a background premise in William Gibson’s The Peripheral. Most jobs are either for a tech company, or at a Walmart-esque store that has eaten all other retail.

That book was weirdly prescient. IIRC Gibson himself noted that he was too on-the-nose with The Jackpot, which has made it very difficult to write the sequels.

Hyperstition is a real thing... if, that is, you're William Gibson.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Nice tongue and cheek from the Register and OpenAI to tickle the 'doomer' narrative.

But reality is that there will be new high skilled jobs from AI thanks to Jevons' Paradox, the more companies using AI will lead to a huge demand for highly skilled people who can use AI in more ways than we are today.

Not so much about being replaced, but there will be new jobs for people to do.

I guess for those people being 'replaced' it is a 'skill issue'

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anybody really believe that SalesForce of all companies has successfully replaced 4000 real and necessary jobs with AI? Or is that more likely just an excuse to justify more layoffs in the tech industry for the usual reasons.

Lots of companies using AI or RTO as excuses to just downsize since layoffs for normal reasons don’t look as good.

There's no doubt it can function as a convenient cover, but that doesn't mean it's having no effect at all. It would be naive to assume that the introduction of a fundamentally new general-purpose work tool across millions of workers in nearly every industry and company within the span of a couple years has not played any role whatsoever in making teams and organizations more efficient in terms of headcount.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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post #7

How many jobs have they actually 'eaten'? For now, we mostly have AI labs and those in proximity claiming some number of jobs will be obsolete, but the actual job loss has yet to manifest.

In my personal experience I've seen:

- OCR eat a good chunk of data entry jobs,

- Automated translation eat a number of translation jobs,

- LLM have eaten quite a few tier I support roles.

I don't have numbers tho, maybe people are still doing data entry or hiring translators on mechanical turk.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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post #7

How many jobs have they actually 'eaten'? For now, we mostly have AI labs and those in proximity claiming some number of jobs will be obsolete, but the actual job loss has yet to manifest.

It’s going to ramp. I have a team where 60% of the staff (6/10) is retiring in a year. Their function is around reconciling utilization and bills from multiple related suppliers with different internal stakeholders. They do a bunch of analysis and work with the internal stakeholders to optimize or migrate spend. It is high ROI for us, and the issue is both finding people with the right analytical and presentation ski…

This is a great way of looking at it.

Do you use tech to grow your business or increase dividends?

Also reducing staff via attrition shows far better management skills than layoffs which imo says more about the CEO & upper management.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salesforce CEO confirms 4,000 layoffs ‘because I need less heads’ with AI - https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/salesforce-ceo-confirms-4000...

Does anybody really believe that SalesForce of all companies has successfully replaced 4000 real and necessary jobs with AI? Or is that more likely just an excuse to justify more layoffs in the tech industry for the usual reasons.

tbh. for companies like SalesForce I always assume they have a lot of bloated unnecessary jobs which are done well enough by the people having them to needing a external reason to firing them

in addition SalesForce grew in employment size in 2025 AFIK and 4000 jobs are for them only around ~~5%, which means it's to small to be a meaningful metric if you don't fully trust what their press department does (and you shouldn't)

still I see people using modern AI for small productivity boosts all over the place including private live (and often with a wastely underestimate risk assessment) so in the best case it's only good enough to let people process more of the backlog (which otherwise would be discarded due to time pressure but isn't worthless) and in the worst case will lead to idk. 1/3 of people in many areas losing their job. But that is _without_ major breakthrough in AI, just based one better applying what AI already can do now :/ (and is excluding mostly physical jobs, but it's worse for some other jobs, like low skill graphic design positions)

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