i'm the only one that wished docker swarm became the standard instead of k8s?
I ditched Docker for Podman
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Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#42> If your Docker Compose workflow is overly complex, just convert it to Kubernetes YAML. We all use Kubernetes these days, so why even bother about this?
I find that kubernetes yaml are a lot more complex than docker compose. And while I do, no, not everybody uses kubernetes.
Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#43same, not because compose, but because I wanted a software to run containers and docker only provides a solution
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#44Docker swarm is great on single servers. Apparently still no such thing for Podman.
Even if the tech is not top notch, Docker got a few things right on product management.
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#45My favorite part of the blog is how the author lets us know he is pretty young to reference vagrant as old.
Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#46To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!
> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!
Was this a deal breaker for any company?
I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free.
If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9 a year per developer for the license. So $90 / year for everyone, but if you have US developers your all-in payroll is probably going to be over $200,000 per developer or roughly $2 million dollars. In that context $90 is practically nothing. A single lunch for the dev team could cost almost double that.
To me that is a bargain, you're getting an officially supported tool that "just works" on all operating systems.
Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#47I have ditched docker desktop on macOS for OrbStack.
OrbStack looks pretty nice, BUT an $8/mo/user subscription? Blech.
It doesn't only look prettier, it also starts and works a lot faster. Switched a few years ago; at that time Docker desktop has a known issue of continually using 5% CPU on Mac which they didn't fix for years.
Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#48To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!
> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win! Was this a deal breaker for any company? I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free. If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9…
We only run Podman Desktop if ever because for large companies it is cost prohibitive. We also found that most people don’t need *Desktop at all. Command line works fine
Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#49To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!
None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company. But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.
Podman is inside the Ubuntu WSL image. No need for docker at all
Re: I ditched Docker for Podman
#50I love podman, and, like others have said here, it does not always work with every container. I often try to run something using podman, then find strange errors, then switch back to docker. Typically this is with some large container, like gitlab, which probably relies on the entirety of the history of docker and its quirks. When I build something myself, most of the time I can get it working under podman. This situ…
> I love podman, and, like others have said here, it does not always work with every container.
Which is probably one of the motivations for the blog post. Compatibility will only be there once a large enough share of users use podman that it becomes something that is checked before publish.