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I ditched Docker for Podman

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Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#31

Post by Izmaki »

t43562 wrote: post #21

To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company.

But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#32

Post by t43562 »

Izmaki wrote: post #31
t43562 wrote: post #21

To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company. But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.

Those companies use docker desktop on their dev's machines.

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#33

Post by Almondsetat »

t43562 wrote: post #32
Izmaki wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company. But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.

Those companies use docker desktop on their dev's machines.

That's their completely optional prerogative

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#34

Post by matsemann »

Izmaki wrote: post #31
t43562 wrote: post #21

To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company. But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.

If you've installed Docker on Windows you've most likely done that by using Docker Desktop, though.

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#35

Post by connicpu »

t43562 wrote: post #32
Izmaki wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company. But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.

Those companies use docker desktop on their dev's machines.

There's no need if all your devs use desktop Linux as their primary devices like we do where I work :)

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#36

Post by t43562 »

matsemann wrote: post #34
Izmaki wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of your companies need to worry about licenses. Docker ENGINE is free and open source. Docker DESKTOP is a software suite that requires you to purchase a license to use in a company. But Docker Engine, the core component which works on Linux, Mac and Windows through WSL2, that is completely and 1000% free to use.

If you've installed Docker on Windows you've most likely done that by using Docker Desktop, though.

Right, we were using macs - same story.

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#37

Post by kodama-lens »

I tried podman for multiple times. Normal testing & sandox stuff just works and you really can do alias docker=podman. But ass soon as you add nertworking me broke for me. And for me it is really just a tool and I need my tools working. So I switched back.

Recently I did the GitLab Runner migration for a company and switched to rootless docker. Works perfectly, all devs did not notice all there runs now use rootless docker and buildkit for builds. All thanks to rootless kit. No podman problems, more secure and no workflow change needed

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#38

Post by t43562 »

connicpu wrote: post #35
t43562 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those companies use docker desktop on their dev's machines.

There's no need if all your devs use desktop Linux as their primary devices like we do where I work :)

On Mac we just switched to podman and didn't have anything to worry about.

Re: I ditched Docker for Podman

#39

Post by Hackbraten »

ravenstine wrote: post #17

Could never get rootless to work properly. I wanted to like Podman, but every time I wanted to use it there was some bump in the road that made me give up and use Docker.

Exactly this.

Plus, I don’t see the point in babysitting a separate copy of a user space if systemd has `DynamicUser`.

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