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Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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It has some underappreciated side effects, such as reduced night vision. Even if everything else went perfectly, I don't think that's an acceptable side effect for me.

How exactly does it affect night vision? I already have mild cataracts which make night vision annoying. Definitely don’t need it getting any worse!

They can replace your eye's clouded lens with a corrective lens now.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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I had it done in late 2022. The doctor does close to zero work and it’s all in the laser. I called almost every lasik specialist in the city to figure out what laser they use and what their price is and then narrowed that list further with in person consultations. Don’t go for the absolute cheapest but there’s zero reason to pay quadruple. At the time it was about $1k per eye and of course vision insurance sucks and…

Everyone should do it? Without any research or consulting a doctor? This is really bad advice.

This is needless; it is impossible to get LASIK without consulting a doctor or doing research and no advice can change that.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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That'd be nice. I had LASIK a few years ago and the number of Windows Vista generic error sounds (BONG BONG) I heard during the procedure was a little unsettling. Ended up working out just fine though, so far at least. EDIT: Given some of the comments below, for reference: mine was done almost six years ago.

The fact the procedure involves me looking down the barrel of a flesh-vaporizing laser has always has made me reconsider.

Look at the red dot for 5 minutes. Vision perfect for decades or more.

It’s worth it.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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How exactly does it affect night vision? I already have mild cataracts which make night vision annoying. Definitely don’t need it getting any worse!

They can replace your eye's clouded lens with a corrective lens now.

They can even do bifocal lenses when replacing them. My mother just had this done and I was surprised to see that as an offering.

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Anything to look out for for someone considering going for LASIK in the next few months?

Do your pros and cons versus ICL. It's pricier. But it comes with fewer side effects, is fully reversible and allows for refinement down the road.

My cornea was too thin for lasik, they offered me ICL but it was like 13k vs 5k. And the surgery seems scarier. And apparently they had complaints about the previous generation ICL causing hightened corneal pressure, so the current one with a hole in the center is pretty new. I kept my contacts.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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> potential to replace laser surgeries in ophthalmologists’ offices in the future, for a fraction of the cost . The cynic in me says we won't be seeing adoption of this technology....

The cynic in you has a zero-sum mental model of the world with a fixed number of eye surgery doctors. If a cheaper, faster, safer (therefore lower insurance cost) procedure becomes available, more clinics will open using it. Competition drives prices down fast in the domain of elective medical procedures.

>elective medical procedures.

Are not covered by Insurance.

Where have you been seeing medical costs come down the last 20 or so years that makes you think the relentless constant increasing prices is going to change? My medical costs are nearly double what they were 10 years ago and I have no medical issues, I doubt I'm an outlier.

There is no competition in a captured market with artificial supply limitations. ie the number of medical professionals that are legally allowed to sell or use the service.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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Do your pros and cons versus ICL. It's pricier. But it comes with fewer side effects, is fully reversible and allows for refinement down the road.

My cornea was too thin for lasik, they offered me ICL but it was like 13k vs 5k. And the surgery seems scarier. And apparently they had complaints about the previous generation ICL causing hightened corneal pressure, so the current one with a hole in the center is pretty new. I kept my contacts.

> the surgery seems scarier

It’s cataract surgery. Apart from infection practically all the risks are lower than with LASIK. The principal downside is cost. (That said, I haven’t done it yet—I am on daily contacts.)

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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That'd be nice. I had LASIK a few years ago and the number of Windows Vista generic error sounds (BONG BONG) I heard during the procedure was a little unsettling. Ended up working out just fine though, so far at least. EDIT: Given some of the comments below, for reference: mine was done almost six years ago.

The fact the procedure involves me looking down the barrel of a flesh-vaporizing laser has always has made me reconsider.

Watching a checker-board of laser-light scattering across your eyes is a highly uncomfortable and wildly unique experience. I agree with the other comment that it's a very safe process, done hundreds of thousands of times, and improves your quality of life measurably.

The Dr asked me to please be quiet because I was in awe describing the whole process out loud.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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The fact the procedure involves me looking down the barrel of a flesh-vaporizing laser has always has made me reconsider.

Watching a checker-board of laser-light scattering across your eyes is a highly uncomfortable and wildly unique experience. I agree with the other comment that it's a very safe process, done hundreds of thousands of times, and improves your quality of life measurably. The Dr asked me to please be quiet because I was in awe describing the whole process out loud.

> The Dr asked me to please be quiet because I was in awe describing the whole process out loud.

I believe we all here share this neurological condition.

Re: Electromechanical reshaping offers safer eye surgery

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That's an advantage of ICL over Lasik: the surgery is minimally invasive, and completely reversible (assuming no catastrophic accidents during surgery itself). A 3mm-long slit is made at the very edge of your iris, and the lens is inserted, then unfurled in place. Reversing it involves pulling the little sucker back out, easy-peasy. I've had that done, during cataract surgery. It's not risk-free, but it's ostensibly…

Sweet, thanks for the name of it, when I was learning more about it, I was trying to think of what this was called. I'm surprised it isn't more common like PSK/Lasik. There's some interesting Infrared/LED light stuff coming out about eyesight repair too.

For one, the US only legalized ICL surgery in the 2000s. Lasik had a big headstart.
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