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Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

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Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

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post #18

The folks on Hacker News seem pretty anti-crypto, but I feel like they're missing the point. If we're actually looking for ways to fix the US debt, stablecoins are definitely worth considering

What does a separate payment rail have to do with the US debt?

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

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Welcome to crypto project number 206701341. At least that is how many are listed on CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/number-of-cryptocurrencies-... Bitcoin is decentralized because the sun distributes energy somewhat evenly across the globe. The other 206701340 crypto projects, including this one, are decentralized because ... ? From the very sparse info on the page, it seems this project does what so…

No, you misunderstand and are closed minded. Their corporate leadership has already stated in the roadmap and core value document that it will be neutral and permissionless.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#34
post #4

The whole payment sector is so fucking idiotic. Why would Stripe need a L1? Partnered with paradigm? The company behind every crypto scam in the past 5 years? Who needs this? Who wants this? I just want to order a book from Amazon; why would there be a blockchain?

If it reduces friction and lets processors handle more transactions, eliminates pressure points subject to third party interference, scams, and political/ideological fuckery, and if it performs as well or better than before from the consumer perspective, then it's a win. Ostensibly decentralized systems like this allow the processor to defer responsibility for any given transaction in particular, so vendors and consumers are harder to particularly target; Stripe can't be maneuvered into "debanking" efforts, or at least, can't as easily as has been the case with controversial adult performers and products and political and other people who've suffered under the old paradigm.

That says nothing of political idiocy which will surely follow as new levers are tested, but payment processors are in the business of making money, and ostensibly want as many transactions to happen as possible, regardless of origin or the particulars of any sale.

They shouldn't be gatekeeping goods and services for legal transactions, and I'd be willing to bet most of them absolutely don't want to be in that position.

I imagine there's also a chargeback scam reduction and accountability benefit to this, which reduces losses, and ostensibly prices.

There's a surveillance and privacy hit, but it's not like the systems currently being used aren't completely compromised and surveilled already, so maybe this adds some accountability at that level as well.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#37
post #19

Honest question: what kind of problem does this solve?

Second line of the page:

> Stablecoins enable instant, borderless, programmable transactions, but current blockchain infrastructure isn’t designed for them: existing systems are either fully general or trading-focused. Tempo is a blockchain designed and built for real-world payments.

What is different in the details, no idea.

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#38
it will never be full available to us unlike bitcoin or ethereum? this is literally like a fast db? like you people here used to say. Finally HN is right and stripe founders joined on calling fast db a "blockchain" with lie.

they will censor you and block you in blockchain level so literally db for few big companies, lol.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#39
Blockchain is such a useful and needed technology for mass adoption, yet so redundant to have in the US because of how much side-eye treatment it gets. Blockchain makes more sense to have here than anywhere else in the world. blockchain does not need to handle high transaction rate the same as visa or MasterCard protocols. There needs to be micro workers that can handle transactions in real-time in Blockchain methodology should be reserved for when recording these transactions. The whole point to have Blockchain is to maintain integrity and security, there is no need for this technology to do small tasks when something else can do that more efficient and successfully, When making this technology efficient, you tend to lose the essence of what that technology is representing in the first place IMO.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#40

I don't get it. Why does Stripe want to creatively ruin their reputation by venturing into crypto / blockchain? I don't see anyone in the real world using blockchains at all. I get AI as it was a real world paradigm shift, but I have never seen anything in this blockchain / crypto space that has reached 100-500 million users let alone 1 billion users, that isn't based on speculation.

> I don't see anyone in the real world using blockchains at all.

Many companies are using stablecoins for cross border transactions, and for payouts in countries with volatile currencies. There's clear value for these use-cases.

Not to mention lower fees and 24/7 availability.

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