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Where's the shovelware? Why AI coding claims don't add up
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
How are you sure it's increasing your productivity if it "makes no sense" to even quantify that? What are the receipts you have?
I have linked my github above. I don't know how that fares in the bigger scope of things, but I went from 0 opensource to hundreds of tools and frameworks and libraries. Putting a number on "productivity" makes no sense to me, I would have no idea what that means. I generate between 10-100k lines of code per day these days. But is that a measure of productivity? Not really...
>I generate between 10-100k lines of code per day these days.
That’s absolute nonsense.
Re: Where's the shovelware? Why AI coding claims don't add up
#224I used to be a full-time developer back in the day. Then I was a manager. Then I was a CTO. I stopped doing the day-to-day development and even stopped micro-managing the detailed design. When I tried to code again, I found I didn't really have the patience for it -- having to learn new frameworks, APIs, languages, tricky little details, I used to find it engrossing: it had become annoying. But with tools like Claude…
If you’re a CTO who can no longer program, the solution isn’t to use AI to program again; the solution is to hire people who can program. The question at hand is whether AI helps your developers, not whether it helps you. You’re the CTO. It’s not your job to program.
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#225There is actually a lot of AI shovelware on Steam. Sort by newest releases and you'll see stuff like a developer releasing 10 puzzle games in one day. I have the same experience as OP, I use AI every day including coding agents, I like it, it's useful. But it's not transformative to my core work. I think this comes down to the type of work you're doing. I think the issue is that most software engineering isn't in fie…
If you look at the actual steam metrics though we’re barely seeing more games releases than we were last year.
If AI were really making people 10x more productive, given the number of people who want to make games, you’d expect to see more than a few percent increase year over year.
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#226These claims wouldn't matter if the topic weren't so deadly serious. Tech leaders everywhere are buying into the FOMO, convinced their competitors are getting massive gains they're missing out on. This drives them to rebrand as AI-First companies, justify layoffs with newfound productivity narratives, and lowball developer salaries under the assumption that AI has fundamentally changed the value equation. This is my…
> My manager told me that the time to deliver my latest project was cut to 20% of the original estimate That's insane. Who the hell pulls a number out of their ass and declares it the new reality? When it doesn't happen, he'll pin the blame on you, but everyone else above will pin the blame on him . He's the one who will get fired. Laying off unnecessary developers is the answer if LLMs turn out to make us all so muc…
> That's insane. Who the hell pulls a number out of their ass and declares it the new reality?
Product and Sales?
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#227“Where is the shovelware?”… It’s Coming! Changing domain to writing and images and video you can see LinkedIn is awash with everyone generating everything by LLMs. The posting cadence has quickened too as people shout louder to raise their AI assisted voice over other people’s. We’ve all seen and heard the AI images and video tsunami So why not software (yet but soon)?? Firstly, Software often has a function and AI t…
Software standards are already falling, sadly. I look at the recent problems with Microsoft Windows, Teams and Outlook and despair. How much of it is to be blamed on AI, and how much on a culture of making users test their products, I do not know.
Yeah users' expectations of their software has definitely been declining.
Everything has been enshittified so much that nothing phases them anymore.
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My manager told me that the time to deliver my latest project was cut to 20% of the original estimate That's insane. Who the hell pulls a number out of their ass and declares it the new reality? When it doesn't happen, he'll pin the blame on you, but everyone else above will pin the blame on him . He's the one who will get fired. Laying off unnecessary developers is the answer if LLMs turn out to make us all so muc…
> That's insane. Who the hell pulls a number out of their ass and declares it the new reality? Chatgpt.
I think ChatGPT isn’t the “who”, it’s just the ass that people are pulling numbers out of. A big ole extra butt you graft onto your body.
Re: Where's the shovelware? Why AI coding claims don't add up
#229These claims wouldn't matter if the topic weren't so deadly serious. Tech leaders everywhere are buying into the FOMO, convinced their competitors are getting massive gains they're missing out on. This drives them to rebrand as AI-First companies, justify layoffs with newfound productivity narratives, and lowball developer salaries under the assumption that AI has fundamentally changed the value equation. This is my…
My opinion is that AI isn’t actually the root of the problem here.
It’s that we are heading towards a big recession.
As in all recessions, people come up with all sorts of reasons why everything is fine until it can’t be denied anymore. This time, AI was a useful narrative to have lying around.
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#230This is the part that really grinds my gears. Careless People.
> The impact on human lives is incredible. People are being fired because they’re not adopting these tools fast enough. People are sitting in jobs they don’t like because they’re afraid if they go somewhere else it’ll be worse. People are spending all this time trying to get good at prompting and feeling bad because they’re failing.