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For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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I tried hitting the "identify" button but got the error "LanguageModel is not supported." This is on latest Safari, iPadOS.

I believe it's the nightly build on windows currently. Actually just looked and came back I'm mistaken it's on mac looks like too. Not sure why it's not working.

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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The sticker will get lost, peel off, get scratched until it's unreadable and then the user has no way to get that information. Maybe if they are really on top of things they will take a picture of the sticker when they first get the machine and save it somewhere that they will remember 5 years later when they need it, but most people will not do that. And if you aren't the first owner of the machine, well then, you'r…

Rubbish. The sticker is still on my 14 year old washing machine. Hell I've got a 55 year old piece of electronic equipment here with the serial number sticker still on it.

I've got a 65 year old FM radio with manufacturer-supplied circuit diagram still inside the case.

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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As someone who just replaced the bearings on a washing machine motor (carbon-commutator), I uhh… agree? The old machines are absolute workhorse beasts and they can work indefinitely as brand new with some maintenance here and there. However my expectation of people doing this are basically zero. So this is an anomalous post. By the time you write a blog post complaining about how a machine has a required IoT thing, y…

Conterpoint: We had a new samsung washer dryer pair with a 90 day warranty; they advertise something like 10 years, but it is a lie. The electrolux in the article is probably similar. Anyway, it said it lost communication between two boards. I opened it up, checked the wiring harness, and found zero visible problems. I replaced both boards. Same error code. There are 3-4 other computers in that model, so I guess the…

>There’s no reason these things shouldn’t last more than 20-30 years on average.

This is actually a difficult problem I feel. Misaligned incentives aside. How do you keep a company running if it is so good it captures the whole market in 15 years, but it takes 30 years before it's products need replacing? (This is a simplistic presentation of the issue, but I feel it's understandable enough to start to formulate ideas on how? You could think of lightbulbs that last a century if you like {would lack of competition inhibit progress??}.)

I would love to buy Samsung's washer division, say, and work to make the machines invincible and completely repairable. Then use the profits to bootstrap other such projects. Eventually make the company cooperative, etc, maintain the longevity and work on reducing running costs, improving cleaning, etc.

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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I have a better proposal. Let's scrap the web. It's corrupted and broken, it hasn't been fun since MySpace. We serve native apps like VNC over kitty graphics protocol + mosh/ssh + ios/android/windows/macos mosh/ssh client. Even if we need to distribute a customized terminal to make it work. Get rid of the browser and the app stores at the same time.

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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Why not just print a $.0001 sticker and stick it the machine listing all of the info needed to fix the machine... instead of building a $86million datacenter and burning through $100,000 of clean electricity every month that could have been used to power homes, but was instead used doing this?

As long as, and some suppliers seem to find this onerous, the sticker can be peeled off cleanly. (I once bought a grass rake with 2 or 3 dozen metal tines, and it arrived with a huge sticker across all the tines. Which when I attempted to peel off, left a scattered layers of paper hard glued to all the tines. Not happy. Same with a rolling hot dog cooker. Glued “temporary” sales sticker covering half the transparent…

Fender did this with my bass guitar. Trying to get the sticker off without scratching it was impossible, and even after using alcohol there's still some residue D-:

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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I have a better proposal. Let's scrap the web. It's corrupted and broken, it hasn't been fun since MySpace. We serve native apps like VNC over kitty graphics protocol + mosh/ssh + ios/android/windows/macos mosh/ssh client. Even if we need to distribute a customized terminal to make it work. Get rid of the browser and the app stores at the same time.

How is your "customized terminal" not yet another browser?

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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Why not just print a $.0001 sticker and stick it the machine listing all of the info needed to fix the machine... instead of building a $86million datacenter and burning through $100,000 of clean electricity every month that could have been used to power homes, but was instead used doing this?

The sticker will get lost, peel off, get scratched until it's unreadable and then the user has no way to get that information. Maybe if they are really on top of things they will take a picture of the sticker when they first get the machine and save it somewhere that they will remember 5 years later when they need it, but most people will not do that. And if you aren't the first owner of the machine, well then, you'r…

Do you really think this cloud service will be up and functioning for 20+ years? How much stuff like that was set up in 2005 and is still working?

But even without that calculus, you can put a bunch of stickers on, all over the machine. They cost nothing and can be applied automatically. Better yet, punch it into some central metal part of the washing machine like the VIN on a car.

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

#39

I tried hitting the "identify" button but got the error "LanguageModel is not supported." This is on latest Safari, iPadOS.

chrome://flags/#prompt-api-for-gemini-nano to enable this on current Chrome (at least on Linux). It worked after I enabled that flag and restarted Chrome, though it required two tries (apparently it needed to download a model).

I tried to figure out if this stuff was available in other browsers but unfortunately came up short.

Googler, opinions my own.

Re: For all that's holy, can you just leverage the web, please?

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Why not just print a $.0001 sticker and stick it the machine listing all of the info needed to fix the machine... instead of building a $86million datacenter and burning through $100,000 of clean electricity every month that could have been used to power homes, but was instead used doing this?

For the same reason the rep hung up on him after he sat on hold.
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